Mites and Seb Derm

[man_from_mars]

Mites and Seb Derm

Any idea how long they can survive?

Never heard about them until reading this forum
(Sorry but it makes my stomach turn just thinking about it)

In the off chance it has been mites for 30+ years
is there an OTC product that will take care of it

Thanks,
man_from_mars

[gf4456]

Originally Posted by man_from_mars

Mites and Seb Derm

Any idea how long they can survive?

Never heard about them until reading this forum
(Sorry but it makes my stomach turn just thinking about it)

In the off chance it has been mites for 30+ years
is there an OTC product that will take care of it

Thanks,
man_from_mars

Tea Tree oil works very well if your skin can handle it.

[J-Mill]

Originally Posted by man_from_mars

Mites and Seb Derm

Any idea how long they can survive?

Never heard about them until reading this forum
(Sorry but it makes my stomach turn just thinking about it)

In the off chance it has been mites for 30+ years
is there an OTC product that will take care of it

Thanks,
man_from_mars

There is strong evidence to suggest a connection between naturally occurring yeast organisms on human skin called M. Furfur and seb derm, I have never heard of a connection between mites and seb derm, if it was mites it would be some other skin disorder like scabies (looks a lot different from seb derm tho).

Dermodex mites have been thought by some to played a role in Rosacea, but again dermadex mites are on everyone's skin. >Some< Rosaceans have increased dermodex mite populations on their skin, but not all.

If you want to get rid of M. Furfur, antifungals (tea tree oil which was suggested has antifungal properties) are your answer. Pau D'arco, an oral supplement is also supposed to have antifungal properties. Prescription meds like ketoconazole cream, loprox cream and oral itraconazole are all antifungal as well and used to treat seb derm.

If you want to get rid of dermodex there are a number of over the counter creams like zz cream. I think they are likely all irritating as all heck. A prescription called oral ivermectin is safe and effective in killinh off dermodex mites.

[man_from_mars]

Thanks J-Mill,
I've been on prescription ketoconazole cream (2%) for about 2 weeks now
as opposed to any steroid cream.

I believe it's not classified as a steroid and trying to avoid any more telengeistacias
but please let me know if you think I've been misinformed

So hopefully if the seb derm is do to mites(stomach still turning)
it will also take care of it
Man it would be so cool if it did actually cure the whole problem

Thanks again,
man_from_mars

[man_from_mars]

Whoops,
Misinterpreted your reply thinking ketoconazole was also a cure for mites.

But would still like your opinion on using ketoconazole vs hydrocortizone
as far as causing steroid induced rosacea

Thanks,
man_from_mars

[J-Mill]

Originally Posted by man_from_mars

Whoops,
Misinterpreted your reply thinking ketoconazole was also a cure for mites.

But would still like your opinion on using ketoconazole vs hydrocortizone
as far as causing steroid induced rosacea

Thanks,
man_from_mars

Ketoconazole is not a steroid and would not cause steroid induced Rosacea. If your skin can tolerate it and it keeps your seb derm in check that is great, it does work for some.

Hydrocortisone is a steroid but if you are using 1% hydrocortisone I can tell you I looked far and wide for a single scientific study to support the assertion that it can cause steroid induced rosacea or dermatitis and couldn't find one. I looked at 2 studies in particular, 1 where they followed atopics for a period of 10+ years who used it daily on facial skin, and another where they followed pre-annual (under 1 year of age) babies for a period of 1 year who used it on facial skin (baby skin being considerably thinner than adults). Skin biopsies showed no significant skin thinning or reduction in collagen synthethis. That being said there are many people who claim to have had their Rosacea "caused" by hydrocortisone use among other things. Either way I think everyone would agree that if there is treatment other than a steroid you should use it.

[man_from_mars]

Thanks for the info

Just wanted to make sure I was on the right track
after replacing a daily use of hydrocortisone with it.

It seems to do the job just as good for me so far.

man_from_mars

[man_from_mars]

I myself had no problem with using OTC hydrocortizone 1% for years
It was when I used a more powerful steroid on the face short term
that the trouble started.

Hopefully this link works for you
if not let me know.
http://www.herosepharma.com/fig/Clin...abif%204ed.pdf

man_from_mars

[J-Mill]

Originally Posted by man_from_mars

I myself had no problem with using OTC hydrocortizone 1% for years
It was when I used a more powerful steroid on the face short term
that the trouble started.

Hopefully this link works for you
if not let me know.
http://www.herosepharma.com/fig/Clin...abif%204ed.pdf

man_from_mars

This is an excellent resource for people to read respecting the safety/dangers of topical steroids. I have stated may times that hydrocortisone 1% has a long and established safety record even during longterm use, it is stronger topical steroids that have a history of causing other dermatitis eruptions. The article explains well however how 1% hydrocortisone use can lead to use of more potent steroids and to watch out for that. There was a report a few years back from a physician claiming to have seen steroid induced rosacea in patients using hydrocortisone but it was reported and was never heard from again, the same story gets re-posted every now and then. For some people with seb derm though hydrocortisone 1% can provide excellent suppression, it is the only thing that has worked for me, allowing me to sleep and not itch all the time.

[Bren]

My dermatologist assures me that 1% Hydrocortisone is 'so weak' it is safe to use once a day all over my face, if needed. (Thank god it isn't). However, he prescribed me 2% Ketoconazole cream (Ketoderm from Galderma) just the same, to try it out. Well, I think I can safely say that for the most part it appears to do just as good of a job as the hydrocortisone did in controlling the seb derm on the sides of my nose, behind my ears and my on my chin (when used twice a day). I use the hydrocortisone once or twice a week now, when I notice the start of a 'flare'.

Now if only I could find something to control the flushing and redness in my cheeks!