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    Quote Originally Posted by yoegan View Post
    Hi all, I am new to the forum, and I wanted to ask you all if you have heard of a new product called Cliradex and what you thought of it? My eye doctor recommended it to me as part of my hygiene regimen for ocular rosacea. Thanks!
    Hi there,

    I'm also new to this forum and, sadly, have not been able to get much response. I have bad demodectic rosacea (looks like a chemical burn when it flares) with ocular involvement and have been battling it for a while. What has helped the most was deep cleansing with a clarisonic brush and soap with pyrithione zinc, cream from Hoskins in Australia and a combination of oral ivermectin twice a week and topical 5% permethrin. I did all of that without medical help since what dermatologists had tried (IPL and doxy) only made things worse.
    Here's the strange thing...as my face has improved my eyes got much worse..almost as though the demodex found my face no longer "hospitable" so they fled to my eyes.

    After tons of reading about Dr. Safran and Dr. Tseng's successes with tea tree scrubs, I've been doing that but found it wasn't helping much at all and, if anything, seemed to be burning and irritating my eyes. I finally found an ophthalmologist on the Cliradex site and saw him last week. By this time, I'd lost faith in tea tree oil and had no hope that Cliradex would help but bought a box, just to try. The first use was a little scary...major burning and bumps, like a bad allergic reaction. But about a minute later, it all went away and my eyes felt good and clear, not itchy for the first time in months. That night I used it on my face, too, with the same results..it really seems to kill demodex fast and was nothing like the usual tea tree oil. It's still early to be too optimistic but so far it's sort of miraculous. They told me at the office that it contains metaleuca which is in tea tree and not the tea tree oil, itself. But whatever, I'm hopeful again and plan to keep this product on hand forever. Too bad it's so expensive but when you're desperate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RubyRose View Post
    Too bad it's so expensive but when you're desperate...
    Cliradex doesn't have to be so expensive, PM me if you want to know how to get it at a discount.

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    Can I use the cliradex in my skin for Demodex or only in the eyes??
    I have very sensitive dry stinging skin !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARNI View Post
    Can I use the cliradex in my skin for Demodex or only in the eyes??
    I have very sensitive dry stinging skin !!
    I would want to know the pH - healthy skin is acidic whereas the ocular mucosa is alkaline. It's really not great to use alkaline products on hypersensitive skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefox7275 View Post
    I would want to know the pH - healthy skin is acidic whereas the ocular mucosa is alkaline. It's really not great to use alkaline products on hypersensitive skin.

    Thanks for the reply Firefox7275!!
    I don't know the ph of my skin but I know I have very hypersensitive stinging skin!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARNI View Post
    Thanks for the reply Firefox7275!!
    I don't know the ph of my skin but I know I have very hypersensitive stinging skin!!
    Sorry I meant I would want to know the pH of Cliradex. It may be alkaline to suit the eyes, in which case it would not be suitable for acidic skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefox7275 View Post
    Sorry I meant I would want to know the pH of Cliradex. It may be alkaline to suit the eyes, in which case it would not be suitable for acidic skin.
    I found an article about dangerous ingredients containing some cosmetics! Most of these ingredients are including in the cliradex !!
    The NAME
    SODIUM LAURYL SULPHATE
    SODIUM LAURETH SULPHATE
    COCAMIDO / COCAMIDE (DEA)
    COCAMIDO / COCAMIDE (MEA)
    MYRISTYL MYRISTATE
    POLYSORBATE (number) cliradex
    MODIFIED SULPHONATES
    COCOYL SARCOSINAMIDE
    MONOETHANOLAMINE **cliradex
    DIETHANOLAMINE (DEA) **
    TRIETHANOLAMINE (TEA) **
    ** Also used as solvents and preservatives
    FOUND
    Metal polisher, dishwashing liquid, laundry detergent, stain remover.
    Shampoo, face-hands-body soaps, facial cleansers, body wash, toothpaste, shaving cream, hair dyes.
    Medications.
    EFFECTS ON THE BODY
    Remove protective oils from the skin leaving it vulnerable to microbial infections.
    Xespasmataa the scalp Alike head with dandruff.
    Allergic reactions.
    Eye irritation, cataract (from Sodium Lauryl Sulphate), hair loss, liver cancer and kidney (by the DEA).
    Interference with the absorption of nutrients, hormonal disorders, reduced reproductive capacity (eg reduction of sperm), damage to DNA (from Sodium Lauryl Sulphate).
    Specifically the TRIETHANOLAMINE (TEA) is irritating to the eyes and skin, and can react with other chemicals in the product to form carcinogenic nitrosamines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARNI View Post
    I found an article about dangerous ingredients containing some cosmetics! Most of these ingredients are including in the cliradex !!
    The NAME
    SODIUM LAURYL SULPHATE
    SODIUM LAURETH SULPHATE
    COCAMIDO / COCAMIDE (DEA)
    COCAMIDO / COCAMIDE (MEA)
    MYRISTYL MYRISTATE
    POLYSORBATE (number) cliradex
    MODIFIED SULPHONATES
    COCOYL SARCOSINAMIDE
    MONOETHANOLAMINE **cliradex
    DIETHANOLAMINE (DEA) **
    TRIETHANOLAMINE (TEA) **
    ** Also used as solvents and preservatives
    FOUND
    Metal polisher, dishwashing liquid, laundry detergent, stain remover.
    Shampoo, face-hands-body soaps, facial cleansers, body wash, toothpaste, shaving cream, hair dyes.
    Medications.
    EFFECTS ON THE BODY
    Remove protective oils from the skin leaving it vulnerable to microbial infections.
    Xespasmataa the scalp Alike head with dandruff.
    Allergic reactions.
    Eye irritation, cataract (from Sodium Lauryl Sulphate), hair loss, liver cancer and kidney (by the DEA).
    Interference with the absorption of nutrients, hormonal disorders, reduced reproductive capacity (eg reduction of sperm), damage to DNA (from Sodium Lauryl Sulphate).
    Specifically the TRIETHANOLAMINE (TEA) is irritating to the eyes and skin, and can react with other chemicals in the product to form carcinogenic nitrosamines.
    Be careful with articles that are poorly researched or poorly/ not referenced, there is a lot of misinformation and half truths online. Many of those possible effects are to ingesting large amounts of the substance.

    Yes sulphate surfactants can be harsh for sensitive skin, I don't use them at all. However they can be valuable as degreasers and penetration enhancers. Here the product is trying to cleanse away the debris (cylindrical dandruff, sebum) from the lash area so that the active ingredient comes into contact with the Demodex mites.

    Demodex are hardy little devils, I doubt there is anything that is truly gentle on skin that will destroy them. Note that the following is direct contact not when they are buried in the skin, and that none of the fifteen minute actives can be used directly on skin.

    "Demodex folliculorum survived for more than 150 minutes in 10% povidone-iodine, 75% alcohol, 50% baby shampoo, and 4% pilocarpine. However, the survival time was significantly shortened to within 15 minutes in 100% alcohol, 100% TTO, 100% caraway oil, or 100% dill weed oil. TTO’s in vitro killing effect was dose dependent. Lid scrub with 50% TTO, but not with 50% baby shampoo, can further stimulate Demodex to move out to the skin."
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1772908/

    "Lid scrub with tea tree oil has been found to clean dandruff from the lash root and also to stimulate embedded mites to migrate out of the skin. Typically, a daily lid scrub with 50% tea tree oil and lid massage with 5% tea tree oil ointment will resolve ocular Demodex infestation.

    “Specifically for the eye, there are a lot of so-called lid scrub cleansing agents on the market that are over-the-counter,” Dr. Tseng says. “We haven’t found them to be effective in killing mites. We use 75% alcohol to clean our hands or sterilize our instruments before surgery, but even that won’t kill mites. We continued to search for a natural yet effective solution and found tea tree oil as a potential killing agent. A few years ago, we received an NIH research grant to further determine the active component in the tea tree oil. We are now formulating the active component into a single-use, disposable cleansing pad called Cliradex, which will be commercially available in the next few months.” (Dr. Tseng is the inventor and patent holder of the product.)

    Cliradex is a two-part system that includes a cleansing eyelash scrub and a cleansing skin cream. The scrub is used to stimulate the mites out from deep skin and cause direct killing, and the cream prevents the mites from mating.
    "
    http://www.reviewofophthalmology.com.../2088/c/36411/
    Last edited by Firefox7275; 5th January 2015 at 12:49 AM.

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