Let me bring you some science and logic

[nice1]

Theres hundreds of creams on the market but what we all really need are products that have been tested properly using science and nothing else. Theres alos no point in using creams that contain loads of chemicals because these will likely not have been independantly researched for their effects on rosacea.

So I have found that this plant Golden chamomile has been shown to be effective in proper trials...

Randomized placebo-controlled trial of a flavonoid-rich plant extract-based cream in the treatment of rosacea.
Rigopoulos D, Kalogeromitros D, Gregoriou S, Pacouret JM, Koch C, Fisher N, Bachmann K, Brown M, Schwarz E, Camel E, Katsambas A.
Source
Department of Dermatology, University of Athens, Andreas Sygros Hospital, Athens, Greece. stamgreg@yahoo.gr
Abstract
BACKGROUND:
Biological research suggests that vascular changes may play a major role in rosacea pathogenesis. Chrysanthellum indicum is a plant-based extract containing a unique combination of phenylpropenoic acids, flavonoids and saponosids, and has a well-documented effect on vascular wall permeability and increase of the mechanical resistance of capillaries.
OBJECTIVE:
To determine the efficacy and safety of a cream containing 1%C. indicum extract with vitamin P properties in the treatment of rosacea.
METHODS:
This study included 246 patients diagnosed clinically as having moderate rosacea. Patients were randomly allocated to C. indicum extract-based cream (n = 125) and placebo (n = 121) groups. Patients were advised to apply the products on their face twice a day for a 12-week period. The patients were examined at the end of each 4-week period. Severity of erythema (graded by reference to six photographs), surface of erythema and rosacea overall severity scores were recorded at each visit on days 0, 28, 56 and 84. Investigators carried out a final efficacy assessment at the end of week 12. Volunteers' final overall efficacy assessment was recorded in a self-administered questionnaire. Adverse events were identified through examination, interview and collection of comments in patients' questionnaires.
RESULTS:
Treatment with the C. indicum extract-based cream resulted in significant improvement (P < 0.05) in severity of erythema, overall rosacea severity compared to baseline and placebo, and investigator and patient overall efficacy assessment scores (P = 0.046 and P = 0.001, respectively) compared with placebo scores. Adverse reactions were mild, and did not differ between the C. indicum extract-based cream and the placebo groups.
CONCLUSION:
Chrysanthellum indicum extract-based cream is an effective and well-tolerated topical agent for the treatment of moderate rosacea. The mode of action of the active ingredient suggests that additional efficacy might be expected from combination with other topical treatments.

IMO if you are going to use a topical cream then it needs to be tested and it needs to be pure.

We have the data here - this is probably the best product that can be used out there yet people with this condition don't seem to of realised it and are buying these "snake oil" promised cures that when you look at the ingredients list contain dozens of chemicals that are untested on the condition.

This is my honest opinion on the matter. We HAVE to be informed when it comes to treating this - just relying on hope and promises that never come through is not good enough.


Now all we need is someone to bring this to market because currently I can find 0 sellers of this plant extract world wide and i have searched and searched. this made me realise I need to setup a company and bring this product to market myself or at least make my own cream for my personal use.

Its been shown to be effective unlike all the other crap out there - I just find it so frustrating that its not being sold/used while all this other junk that is essentially selling people false hope is.

[nice1]

The closest Ive found is this
http://purifiedskincare.com/calming-1-cream/

unfortunately it has a bunch of otyher ingredients in it which increase the risk of agravation but its currently all i can find thats available to buy and has to be ordered internationally for me.

[Ghost]

It think it was on this forum that a man said he applied Raid insect killer to his skin and it was working. (Not from the US, he called it by a different name. I really don't recall. Suffice to say, it was Raid or one under a different name.) One of the chief ingredients in Raid is pyrethrin. Pyrethrin is derived from chrysanthemums. You might go to your local PetCo and check out their selection of flea sprays, powders, shampoos, especially the ones for cats, since cats are very sensitive and products for them need be gentle. Just look for the magic word pyrethrin.

G

[allalone]

is the only way to know if you have mites is to be tested or just try tto or bug sprays , are there symtoms that would lead you to believe you have this kind?
thanks
Melissa

[Ghost]

is the only way to know if you have mites is to be tested or just try tto or bug sprays , are there symtoms that would lead you to believe you have this kind?
thanks
Melissa

Looking at my face in the mirror I had an ah-ha experience that I did, indeed, have mites. I realized in a flash that the pimples were mite hives (or mine tips) and the "broken blood vessels" were actually mite tracks. I compared my skin to the surface of Dune and the mites to those horrid worms that carved it up.

So, I went after them with tto, borax, hp, ivermectin. And diet. Many wars have been won by starving the enemy.

I don't know what tests would show you what you want to know. Who would interpret the results?

The same people here who tell you that ALL skin has mites turn around and tell you rosacea skin has more mites. It's about as confusing as the argument for and against coffee: it's good for you, it's bad for you depending on the day of the week you read the paper.

[allalone]

are you saying that everyone with this condition has mites ? im wasnt sure how to interpret your answer , i was just saying should your skin be itchy , etc, sorry im dense sometimes haha
thanks
melissa

[Bloem]

Its been shown to be effective unlike all the other crap out there - I just find it so frustrating that its not being sold/used while all this other junk that is essentially selling people false hope is.

I agree we have to follow the science. I'm all for science. It doesn't mean that it is going to work for all of us. The science says antibiotics are the way to go. Antibiotics don't do anything for my symptoms.

[Brady Barrows]

is the only way to know if you have mites is to be tested or just try tto or bug sprays , are there symtoms that would lead you to believe you have this kind?
thanks
Melissa

Might want to read up on demodex and rosacea. Check the subheading, Testing for Demodectic Rosacea - Demodex Density Counts.

[Pez]

Hi Brady

Very interested in your post. This looks like it might be worth trying. www.purifiedskincare.com/calming-1-treatment/ It contains the ingredient you mentioned.

Perry

[Ghost]

Hi Brady

Very interested in your post. This looks like it might be worth trying. www.purifiedskincare.com/calming-1-treatment/ It contains the ingredient you mentioned.

Perry

Hey, Pez, that looks exciting!

G