hydrogen peroxide as a toner ?

[flying_er]

I was wondering if anyone uses hydrogen peroxide as a toner? Recently I've been using some 3% hydrogen peroxide on a cotton ball once a day and it has healed some of my P&Ps. I was wondering if using HP in this way is okay or is it bad for the skin.

I know some people are diluting HP and using it as a face wash, just wondering if anyone uses it right out of the bottle as a toner.

Thanks,
Dave

[Mistica]

My GP currently has me using 3% HP as a topical.
I was worried about the study I read which showed that HP impairs wound repair. He told me if the skin wasn't broken, it shouldn't be a problem.
He has me using it as it interferes with NO and other pathways.

In addition to my GP care I am under the care of a gastroenterologist. I am finding the antibiotic side effects build up and I can't cope with them.

HP helped reduce redness, and superficial, hyper flushing. As time as passed the texture has improved too. Plus, I rarely get any burning now.
Ok, the antibiotics are supposed to be helping too, but after a brief improvement initially, I couldn't tolerate them for more than a few days at a time. Now, I find I can.

Also, I should mention, that in addition to the NO modifying effects of the HP, I am taking oral Lysine. Together, they are helping. The effects are only for a few hours, however, and then they begin to wear off. Overall, I am improving, however.
My flushing was so awful, I nearly quit the current treatment. I am glad of the respite. No telling what the long term outcome will be with the antibiotics yet.
I must update my thread in the prescription section.

[dora]

... NO and other pathways ... in addition to the NO modifying effects

what do you mean by NO, please and thank you?
New Orleans is all that comes to mind, and somehow i suspect that's not what you mean

(and while i'm here ... it would be hugely helpful if people could remember to spell out terms at least once per thread before abbreviating them! that's not directed at you in particular, Mistica - it would just be easier all the way around, especially in such an international forum as this one)

[DukeCity]

Nitric Oxide = NO

[flying_er]

My GP currently has me using 3% HP as a topical.
I was worried about the study I read which showed that HP impairs wound repair. He told me if the skin wasn't broken, it shouldn't be a problem.
He has me using it as it interferes with NO and other pathways.

In addition to my GP care I am under the care of a gastroenterologist. I am finding the antibiotic side effects build up and I can't cope with them.

HP helped reduce redness, and superficial, hyper flushing. As time as passed the texture has improved too. Plus, I rarely get any burning now.
Ok, the antibiotics are supposed to be helping too, but after a brief improvement initially, I couldn't tolerate them for more than a few days at a time. Now, I find I can.

Also, I should mention, that in addition to the NO modifying effects of the HP, I am taking oral Lysine. Together, they are helping. The effects are only for a few hours, however, and then they begin to wear off. Overall, I am improving, however.
My flushing was so awful, I nearly quit the current treatment. I am glad of the respite. No telling what the long term outcome will be with the antibiotics yet.
I must update my thread in the prescription section.

Glad to hear you are having good results from the the HP. Do you apply it once per day?

-Dave-

[Mistica]

I apply it as soon as I have rinsed my face upon rising in the morning. My flushing at that time is usually bad and I struggle to shut it down. I have to apply my ice pack as usual and once things start to slow down, I apply HP.

I apply it again in the late afteroon. I am still a bit wary of using HP, so I don't want to over do it.
I take lysine three times daily.

I read that seabuckthorn oil also reduces Nitric oxide. I wonder if it really does??
If so, I bet that is one reason it helps reduce symptoms in some people.
I don't tolerate topicals in general, not if they leave residue/a film on the face.

Have you ever tried SBT oil?

[flying_er]

Have you ever tried SBT oil?

I have not tried SBT oil. I tend to stay away from oils, my skin doesn't seem to like them. I know some people love jojoba oil but it made a mess of my skin.

-Dave-

[mrsmoof]

I apply it as soon as I have rinsed my face upon rising in the morning. My flushing at that time is usually bad and I struggle to shut it down. I have to apply my ice pack as usual and once things start to slow down, I apply HP.

I apply it again in the late afteroon. I am still a bit wary of using HP, so I don't want to over do it.
I take lysine three times daily.

I read that seabuckthorn oil also reduces Nitric oxide. I wonder if it really does??
If so, I bet that is one reason it helps reduce symptoms in some people.
I don't tolerate topicals in general, not if they leave residue/a film on the face.

Have you ever tried SBT oil?

Mistica - How much lysine do you take daily? Do you take it with food or on an empty stomach?

[Mistica]

Hey Doug,

I take 4000mg to 6000mg per day. Usually split into 3 or 4 doses, - sometimes taking 1500mg per dose, sometimes 2000mg.

I take it first thing in the morning before anything else and wait about 20 to 30 minutes.

After that I take one serrapeptase and wait 30 minutes before food and antibiotics. (Plus vitamin C).

I apply HP upon rising. (Rinse face with cool water, pat dry, apply icepack, apply HP). Makes me really botchy before things settle down.

Dave:

Jojoba ended up really irritating my face when I tried it a few years ago. Normally, I can't tolerate any topical at all, barring a 5 to 10 application of sulphur/sulfacetamide).
About five days ago, I began Sibu SBT in two test patches, ( small ones!!) next to the hair line. It seems to have dried my skin out a bit, but I expect that is temporary. I prefer my skin to be on the dry side though, as this keeps the redness toned down a bit. Dry skin seems to act like a bit of an inflexible shield which makes me a bit less sensitive to the environment. As a result my face doesn't look quite as angry and I am less prone to hyper flushing. ( Ie, from breathing, eating, walking/stopping etc).

[flying_er]

Hey Doug,

Dave:

Jojoba ended up really irritating my face when I tried it a few years ago. Normally, I can't tolerate any topical at all, barring a 5 to 10 application of sulphur/sulfacetamide).
About five days ago, I began Sibu SBT in two test patches, ( small ones!!) next to the hair line. It seems to have dried my skin out a bit, but I expect that is temporary. I prefer my skin to be on the dry side though, as this keeps the redness toned down a bit. Dry skin seems to act like a bit of an inflexible shield which makes me a bit less sensitive to the environment. As a result my face doesn't look quite as angry and I am less prone to hyper flushing. ( Ie, from breathing, eating, walking/stopping etc).

I also prefer my skin a bit on the dry side. Let me know how the SBT works for you after you've been on it for a few weeks, maybe I'll give it a try.

Thanks,
Dave