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    Any rosaceans here get a pulsing or pressure feeling on the bridge of their nose? Weird question maybe.

    I get it. Not always. It doesn't always coincide with a flush. Most days though. It often feels like a pulse. Any ideas?

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    Yes, I get this. Only it isn't soley located on the bridge of my nose. It can be all over it.
    My nose is my worse area for flushing and while it reduced significantly during my high dose D3 regime, it made a come back over the last few weeks. I find it very distressing.

    I get a feeling of pressure and heat in my nose, sort of like a 'burning to breathe' sensation, instead of the normal feeling of 'cool air'. It seems to start near the bridge.

    This is often triggered by talking. Talking is really difficult for me.
    Do you get find this?

    I have been told that it is possible I am producing too much NO (nitric oxide) or I have developed too many receptors.
    I did get to the point where if I sucked on ice, or quickly applied an ice pack I could ward off a nose flush, but since my deterioration, this pressure and heat nearly always results in one.
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    Hi Mistica

    I don't know what triggers mine - if anything. I get it regularly when I'm trying to go to sleep, but also at all sorts of times in all sorts of situations. I have it now!

    I have had it for quite some time - a couple of years maybe. It seemed to coincide with the onset of telangiectasia which is why I bring it up. Perhaps that's just coincidence or my memory is blurred. Mainly it is just an annoyance but I'd like to know the cause. Not aware of any NO issues with me!

    I have been doing some research on the Vit D thing. How are you finding it? Don't suppose you can post some links about its possible role in rosacea could you?

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    Yeah okay so this is the wrong thread to do this in but does the vit D thing go like this:

    - There are some nasty bugs - Cpn
    - Lots of people have these nasty bugs but there are no obvious symptoms.
    - These bugs cause some kind of general inflammation which in some way causes inflammation of the facial blood vessels
    - Vit D destroys these bugs
    - It takes a while
    - When the bugs are gone, the inflammation is lessened
    - Rosacea symptoms lessen

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    Oh, and big Cpn die-off can happen which cause some unpleasant symptoms which disappear when they're all dead and the world is happy again?

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    I forgot to mention, when I am dozing off, either in the chair or in bed, or simply when I first lay down, the nose things starts up. Also upon rising in the morning.

    Laying down causes a change of blood pressure, but the dozing in the chair trigger is to do with vagal stimulation. In normal people this should be anti inflammatory, but in some rosaceans, it produces the opposite effect. Hence the term, paradoxical inflammation.

    My understanding of the cryptic bacteria/vitamin D scenario is the following.

    We become infected with Cpn and or other pathogens during our lives. If our immune systems are up and running at full speed the infection is rapidly contained and doesn't cause a problem. Healthy levels of vitamin D are required for this.
    If the levels fall, it is a bit like 'when the cat's away the mice will play'.
    Without a control, the bugs are free to multiply and move through the system until they find a nice spot to set up shop.
    They are attracted to areas of inflammation and a highly vascularized face, especially a flushing one is a lovely home.

    This all makes sense to me, but the main question I have, is what makes the face inflamed in the first place?
    There appears to be a few plausible answers.

    A) blushing is purely a physical abnormality and it acts like a magnet to parastic bugs.
    But not all people blush.

    B) Irritating topicals create inflammation and a welcome sign.

    C) ( And this seems to be the favoured idea, in the absence of topicals), the initial inflammation is carried from the gut, a leaky gut. Studies clearly demonstrate a connection as seen by biochemical markers/proteins.
    So, perhaps it goes something like this. Cpn enters the lungs and is attracted to the gut. From there it is recruited to the face. Because the gut is never healed, there is a constant source. However, we have seen that in those who treat the gut, usually only short term relief is seen in the face, if they are lucky to see any improvement at all. And if they do, usually, it is not a clearance, only a reduction. (Biofilm bacteria in the gut is very resistant to removal).
    This suggests that once the tissues have been infected elsewhere in the body, they will remain so, unless something evicts the invaders.

    This is the theory that my biochemist mentor favours. He also seems to think that we are probably dealing with viruses too.

    Vitamin D in sufficiently high doses has been shown to kill both viruses and bacteria, unlike antibiotics. The types of antibiotics we are usually given are not capable of killing intracellular bacteria, but they can annoy it enough to reduce activity for a period of time.
    Meanwhile antibiotics aggravate the gut.

    Dan, ( Our vitamin D mentor) has managed to implement the Vitamin D theory and prove it can reactivate our immune systems to work like nature intended.
    Yes, it takes a very long time and unfortunately the road is a rocky one.
    'Die off' can be very unpleasant, but this depends on degree of severity of rosacea ( and any other health issues present).

    I am cautiously optomistic that I will continue to improve, based on the significant improvement I have had so far, but God, I wish this path came without the periods of deterioration.

    Yes, this is the wrong place to post, but what the heck.... mods can move it if they wish
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    Just wanted to chime in and say that I get the pressure thing sometimes too. My job requires quite a bit of walking and in the afternoon my nose will feel hot - like I feel the blood vessels swelling and there's pressure there - when I get back into the office but calms down within minutes. I'm guessing it has something to do with chilly hall and stairways and the sudden change of temperature. I'm also the same as Mistica in that my nose likes to flush when I lay down. I have no suggestions other than to try and keep your nose as warm as you can throughout the day so there's no rebound flush later.

    edit - and Vbeam, my new best friend.
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    Wow, weird. Yeah, I get a strange pressure/tingling at the bridge of my nose. This was the only symptom I had for a while, before the burning hot flushing began a couple months ago. Man, this disease blows...

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    Default It does blow...I just wish we could blow away this disease LOL

    I always get that pulsing/pressure feeling on my nose when I am about to get a nose flush. Not fun at all and it is one of my most dreaded symptoms as the nose flush burns and causes swelling of my nose and it is very hard to stop from happening once I get that tingling/pulsing/pressure feeling on my nose

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    Hi Melissa,

    Do you find that talking triggers/worsens this?
    Previous Numerous IPL, ZZ cream.
    Supplements: Vit K2, High Dose Vit C, BHCL, Digestive Enzymes, Ionic trace mineral drops, low dose iodine to correct deficiency.
    Skin Care: Cetaphil Gentle Cleanser, or ZZ soap.

    Treating for gut infections under specialist care. (This is helping).
    GAPS diet foods/no probiotics.

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