Nase

[clsykes00]

Does anyone know why Dr Nase hasn't been on this board? This board needs his expertise.

Best,
Trey

[Andy]

He has once again been banned since a few days back for speaking out against the LED/LLT/whatever lamps. You'll find that expertise on his new board shortly, the expertise we all need and rely on.

Turn on your lamps folks, and thou shalt be cured!

[clsykes00]

Why would someone be banned for giving an opinion on lamps?

Best,
Trey

[Andy]

Good question. Beats me.

Anyone?

[Bob Bear]

I know nothing about this issue, but Id think there was a little more to it than that. Im not sure why Geoffrey was banned, but if he is off working hard on his own forum then maybe its for the best. I think Geoffrey needs his own place now, to run his consultancy and publish his work.

I just hope there is no lingering ill will. Its been a tough 12 months, but Id like to think that when everything is settled there'll be now animosity. We're all going in the same direction, are we not?

[Andy]

I sure do hope so, Mr Bear.

[Miki]

why ban nase, this forum is useless without any informed opinions. i hope his forum is up and running soon.

[RedHotCanuck]

So you are saying that the other 730 members are uninformed and don't have the capabilities to research, test, and find solutions for their Rosacea problems? I beg to differ. There are plenty of members here who know quite a bit about Rosacea, the currently available treatments, and possible future treatments.

We already have people pulling info from PubMed, writing journals about their treatments, and constantly nagging some of these bio companies about their products.

Its unfortunate but I think most log onto these forums each day and hope to see find a cure posted. Lets be realistic.. We need to work together on this and not rely on one person to be our saviour.

Don't get me wrong.. Geoffrey Nase did help me, but their are plenty of things about my Rosacea that I found on my own or from others.

why ban nase, this forum is useless without any informed opinions. i hope his forum is up and running soon.

[marecki]

So you are saying that the other 730 members are uninformed and don't have the capabilities to research, test, and find solutions for their Rosacea problems? I beg to differ. There are plenty of members here who know quite a bit about Rosacea, the currently available treatments, and possible future treatments.

We already have people pulling info from PubMed, writing journals about their treatments, and constantly nagging some of these bio companies about their products.

Its unfortunate but I think most log onto these forums each day and hope to see find a cure posted. Lets be realistic.. We need to work together on this and not rely on one person to be our saviour.

Don't get me wrong.. Geoffrey Nase did help me, but their are plenty of things about my Rosacea that I found on my own or from others.

why ban nase, this forum is useless without any informed opinions. i hope his forum is up and running soon.

RHC , i doubt if there is 730 members , half of that are some phony nicknames if not more , it looks to me like there is 100 or so active members and only a handfull with medical background
but back to the issue , i think that Geoffrey has the best "radar" so to speak to scope out new treatments , sure we can google left and right and look for specyfic rosacea articles or treatments but i think Geoff has the best "eye" for finding possible rosacea treatments in none rosacea treatments (eg LYRICA and plenty of others)

so in my opinion chasing Geoff out was just STUPID !
but let's not dwell on what happend and start another war

[Miki]

exactly, dr nase is the only one with any connections on this board, i dont see anyone else posting articles on future treatments, studies or any other new or relevant information.

[Kris Jacobs]

Andy, Trey, Bob and others,

You are all exactly right. This forum needs his expertise. I will be soooo excited when his forum is up and running. Dr. Nase will no longer have to take all of this crap.

He deserves better. He has a lot of supporters and it is truly amazing to watch him continue to help rosacea sufferers while constantly getting personally attacked by a few.

Hang in their Dr. Nase. We are here for you!

-Kris

[patrice]

I don't mean to make dr Nase a wonderdoctor but he was there from the beginning .
He made me believe that there are people working on some kind of ' cure ' and I personlly need this believe to be able to go on with daily life! Hope that I will be able to get a more normal life back !
He was en is always ready to give someone support if not by bringing up new articles to read then by just understanding what someone is going trough mentally and physically .
And he is only human you know, so can he please have some strong opinions abouth some things (even if they are not always the only correct ones ) , he does not force anyone to only follow his believes .
Most of us are adults (or should be !) and should be able to make up our own minds .
Thanks to Dr Nase I learned abouth , clonidine , not one derm here in Europ ever told me this could help me with severe blushing and I have been dealing with rosacea for 6 or 7 years now .
IPL and laser treatment , and such a lot more, learned abouth it by Geoffrey Nase, and made my own choice in what to do !
Here in Belgium I still don't know where to find someone who knows what Rosacea means ( is it so bad you need to do something abouth it , it nice to have such lovely red cheeks !!)
And if things were bad there was always some encouragement from Dr Nase , he was there from day one (for my day one that is ) and I do hope he will go on .
Not to forget he has a great sense of humour !
And I for one don't mind if he sometimes get' s caried away by some topic or is a bit less diplomatic with someone who doubts what he says ...aren't we all ?
I am always interested in what some fellow sufferers have tried or know abouth R but I learned more abouth rosacea from Dr Nase then from any other dr or member on this board so I will always be gratefull to him and do hope he goes on with his work !
Patrice

[scrumptious]

This subject must have been debated over 200 times since i started posting on any of these boards, actually probably more.

[Jimmy D]

This subject must have been debated over 200 times since i started posting on any of these boards, actually probably more.

i think its good that people acknowledge those that have helped and support them.

[Barbara]

This subject must have been debated over 200 times since i started posting on any of these boards, actually probably more.

i think its good that people acknowledge those that have helped and support them.

I second that, Jimmy!
Barbara

[sweden]

you seriuosly think nases forum will all those other doctors will be up and running soon? makes me laugh lol

[Steve95301]

Dr. Crouch (M.D.) just joined the RRDi as a medical consultant, maybe he'll become more available for Q&A, at least for RRDi members (free to join (http://www.irosacea.org/html/join.html)).

[marecki]

you seriuosly think nases forum will all those other doctors will be up and running soon? makes me laugh lol

sweden , one thing is sure , nobody will ever join YOUR forum

[sweden]

i guess im gonna start paying to see pubmed articles so i can also call myself a rosacea specialist..lol

[Brady Barrows]

He has once again been banned since a few days back for speaking out against the LED/LLT/whatever lamps. You'll find that expertise on his new board shortly, the expertise we all need and rely on.

Turn on your lamps folks, and thou shalt be cured!

Andy,
None of the moderators announce who is banned, unless there is a general consensus from the members that it is necessary. The moderators ban an individual when there are at least two moderators (Arbitration Committee) who agree that this is necessary and in some cases we take a vote of all the moderators. We do not ban someone arbitrarily and moderators are subject to the policy guidelines. Warnings are given before a ban by private emails to curtail the offensive posts or violations of the policy. When someone joins The Forum they agree to the policy. Any perceived rights are subject to the policy. The policy is clear and if the moderators are out of line there are steps that can be taken to bring any moderator(s) to account for an action. No other rosacea support group allows members to have any say about the policy or bring a moderator to account for an action. Only administration can ban a member and of the total number of moderators only two moderators have administration abilities. Warren Stuart, who founded this forum wanted members to be able to write the policy in a wiki environment. Check all the other rosacea support groups. Name one that allows the members to write the policy? There is only this one, the Rosacea Forum. Rosacea Support Groups are generally ruled by an individual, not a group. The individual has the final say. While Warren can with one click delete this entire group and has the final say, Warren has allowed the rosacea community to have a say how a forum should be run. The policy gives a group of moderators power to make decisions which effect the forum, but the moderators can be brought forward and account for any action. You will not find this in any other forum. The Rosacea Forum is truly unique.

The moderators do not discuss in public a ban on a member primarily due to privacy issues. If a member is banned the moderators may be called to account if the member who is banned requires it. Read the policy. In fact, Andy, you can re-write the policy yourself. Any member can. Truly, no other rosacea support group allows this.

[MARPUSBEAN]

Every member of this forum is important, and is valued, however it would be naive to ignore the special position that Dr Nase seems to fill on every Forum he joins, because of his knowledge and enthusiasm (if sometimes misplaced)
If he chooses not to post that is his right, but because so many people expect and to some extent await his posts the moderators should, in his case, keep the forum informed when he is banned, withot having to give an explanation!
It is a just a matter of information.

[Warren]

Yes he is banned. If you want to join his new forum, there is the latest update here (http://drnase.com/forum_rosacea.htm) and also the notification list (http://drnase.com/forum_rosacea_notification.htm).

[prometheus]

Yes he is banned. If you want to join his new forum, there is the latest update here (http://drnase.com/forum_rosacea.htm) and also the notification list (http://drnase.com/forum_rosacea_notification.htm).

Did you ban marc?