View Full Version : Do most of you have sufficient fund for IPL/ laser?
icuraus_cat
8th October 2005, 05:04 PM
I am wondering. I got my first full time job 3 years ago. As I am living in a very expensive area (West coast), I really don't have much money left after all the bills. Plus, this IPL thing costs 550 per treatments. I have no money to save :-( And as you all know, we may have to get IPL more than 10 times. If one doctor doesn't do his job, you have to move to another doctor, so maybe 20 times of IPL at least. PLUS, if you have to travel to see a doc, then additional costs. This financial issue stresses me out. How is everyone managing your finance? And most of doctors count pulses, so they don't go over the limit. Greedy people :!: That's why people are looking forward to San Rosa, as we don't need to bring our hard-earned money to these greedy group of people.
DukeCity
8th October 2005, 07:25 PM
I've been to numerous Derms that are truly clueless to rosacea, so I'll agree with you. - In last free consultation I had with a Derm, he stated "I'll bet you drink an excessive amount of alcohol, due to your red face" - I informed him I don't drink and thanked him for his time. - I've now come to the conclusion, (after many free consutations like that), that it's not an option to waste my time with 99% of the Derms or laser Dx out there, so I've saved up some money and am going to be treated by Dr. Darm out in Portland Or. - my advice is to not waste your time or money on inferior Dx and Tx. Go to the best of the best, a proven winner. There are several great Dx spread out across the country, Dr. Soldo in Arizona, several on the east coast too, it's well worth the trip IMHO. Best of luck.
Bradley
8th October 2005, 08:17 PM
I agree IPLs are way too expensive for the average layman. And it's a shame that you need multiple treatments to have any effect.
Duke is right, if you are going to go with IPL then definitely do it with the best of the best; don't waste your time on cosmeticians that mask as doctors.
On the other hand, if we all donate around $100 each to our own rosacea fund then I'm sure with that total amount of money we could buy our own laser IPL/YAG machine and treat all of us as many times as required.
I've seen on eBay that they sell various skin machines such as those used for microdermabrasions so maybe there are a few docs out there who are upgrading their equipment to newer versions therefore need to sell their current stuff?
Of course, just an idea..and eBay isn't always the best method ;)
IowaDavid
9th October 2005, 03:30 AM
The problem is that you're in the market with people that can spend the excess cash for photorejuvenation and the fact that the machines are fairly expensive.
It'd be nice if laser doctors treated legitimate sufferers from disease on a different scale than strictly cosmetic cases. But, that would really create a gray area and make people pissed off.
My doctor is pretty cool as I've been seeing him for so long and for so many treatments that he's kept me on his old sliding scale price. It's very nice of him and I doubt I could afford treatments if I had to pay $400 a pop for treatments every 6 weeks.
It's incredibly frustrating, because the disease prohibits you from pursuing a career (well, at least in my case), you can't get insurance to cover it (pre-existing condition or laser is unrecognized by insurance companies), and then you're asked to cough up an extra several hundred dollars every 6 weeks. I mean, my friends that are in their mid 20's don't have that kind of extra cash laying around--and they work full-time normal jobs. I'm trying to cobble something together and I still need help from my parents for treatment. I feel pathetic about it. But, that's how it goes, at least for the near-term future. It sucks.
David
irishgenes
9th October 2005, 08:36 AM
It's not just young people who don't have the money for IPL. My husband will retire in 3 years, and our mortgage payment (9 more years) is as big as his Social Security check will be. Our savings won't go far with 3% interest rates, so my husband has been gambling. No, not Las Vegas--- the stock market, but the results have been just as disastrous. He has a knack for picking stocks that start crashing the day after he buys them. I have saved $2000 for IPL over the last year, but I don't want to waste it on ineffective treatments. Duke, what are the names of the east coast doctors you mention as being good?
We have no health insurance, but aren't old enoough for Medicare yet. I guess it wouldn't matter as I don't think they pay for IPL anyway. We planned on trying to get some health insurance next month, but I know it will be over $600 a month at our age, and I will have to not mention my rosacea when I apply so they won't know about my pre-existing condition. Not that they would pay for anything except maybe a tube of worthless Metrogel from another clueless dermatologist.
cobain
10th October 2005, 02:10 AM
Exactly whats it gonna take before the medical profession/insurance companys/society take this disease for what it is . A rosacea sufferer to blow his/her brains out on live t.v wearing a sign around their neck reading HELP FOR ROSACEA SUFFERERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! man ......makes my blood boil.. ohhh damb thats making me flush now....
Sylvia66
10th October 2005, 05:21 PM
$550 per treatment? :shock:
On another forum, I was asking the average US price per IPL
treatment, to gage if what I was paying is a good deal or not.
No one replied. So at least now I have an idea. Good Lord, if
I had to pay that much, there would be no way I could afford
it. Where I am going, it's usually $225 per treatment. Luckily,
I took advantage of booking 5-6 sessions in advance @ $175
each.
I don't understand why so much is being charged? It's all about
the might buck I suppose :roll:
irishgenes
10th October 2005, 11:02 PM
What country are you in? Are you going to an aesthetician's or doctor's office?
Sylvia66
11th October 2005, 03:23 AM
I'm in the US.
Warren
11th October 2005, 09:06 AM
$550 per treatment? :shock:
On another forum, I was asking the average US price per IPL
treatment, to gage if what I was paying is a good deal or not.
No one replied. So at least now I have an idea. Good Lord, if
I had to pay that much, there would be no way I could afford
it. Where I am going, it's usually $225 per treatment. Luckily,
I took advantage of booking 5-6 sessions in advance @ $175
each.
I don't understand why so much is being charged? It's all about
the might buck I suppose :roll:
The machines themselves are expensive at roughly US$60-150K, with [[Intense Pulsed Light]] treatments costing roughly between US$300-700 (€230-500) but can vary depending on a number of conditions. If physicians are making huge amounts of profit then simple economics theory tells us that this will lead to more physicians with these machines and also lower prices.
I have never worried about the price too much. I had to work long hours with overtime to save money, but It was just so necessary to me.
IowaDavid
11th October 2005, 10:02 AM
It would be nice if severe cases could tolerate "normal" work environments and could push themselves to work overtime to save up. There's no way I could do that right now...maybe after another several months of healing up. :)
I just hate having a legitimate disease and being in the market against wealthy boomers that want to get their youth back through laser. :(
irishgenes
11th October 2005, 05:19 PM
I just hate having a legitimate disease and being in the market against wealthy boomers that want to get their youth back through laser. :( Hey, I'm a boomer who wants to get my youth back! If I could be 26 and wrinkle-free again, I wouldn't even worry about my rosacea any more. Not to say that rosacea is not a significant problem for me, but it sucks being old, wrinkled, AND having rosacea! Old age is a disease, too, and there is no cure but death.
coldbliss
11th October 2005, 05:28 PM
That's why technologies like Laser Genesis look promising for the treatment of rosacea. I have heard cases where it takes one Genesis treatment per 2 IPL-only treatments to knock back rosacea. That might be a good way to save some $$$$$$.
Sylvia66
12th October 2005, 02:54 PM
Is Quantum considered a good IPL laser? I'm having great results.
After three treatments, my face has lost it's pinkness, completely.
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