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francois
30th June 2005, 11:07 AM
Hello guys,
I am 21 male rosacean from Turkey. I have been trying to treat my rosacae over 1.5 years and still no improvement. I am a bit unlucky in terms of my location. Here in Turkey, most derms cant diagnose me and almost all say: "it is you, you cant change it".
Therefore, I decided to go abroad to look for treatment opportunities. However as a Turkish citizen, it is very difficult for me to get a visa to go anywhere (USA, AUS, Europe).
I am asking you, if someone can help me for this occasion. I can get a visa, if I study abroad or if I participate in an internship program. Studying abroad will cost me so much and I will spend all that I have saved for my treatments.
Does any of you know, where I can find such a program in order to get visa?. Maybe you can help me with the firm you are working at? I am recently graduated from a 4 year BA program of economics.
You just cant know how it feels like to starve for water in the middle of the desert. I am not begging for water but for the way that goes to it.
Thank you.
Bihbicat
3rd July 2005, 07:03 AM
Hi Francois,
I'm afraid I can't help as I live in Australia and aside from anything else this would not be your place of choice for treatment if you're going to travel overseas for it. I just wanted to say that I totally understand your desire to do this and I think it's great you're willing to go to whatever lengths you have to to get results for yourself. I also wanted to remind you not to be surprised or feel too dejected if you don't get any responses because, as you must know, what you're asking is no small thing and in all reality it's probably well out of most people's hands. For example, no one will be in a position to approach their companies about sponsoring you unless they own the company, and from my understanding companies just don't do that lightly, certainly not because one of their employees wants to help a fellow rosacea sufferer. I say this only so you know that if people don't respond it isn't out of a lack of desire to help, just out of the reality of their practical limitation to. I hope that somehow, against the odds, you find a way to pull this plan off and look forward to hearing your journey with it if you do.
Good luck, B
francois
3rd July 2005, 08:38 AM
Hello Bihbicat,
Your post was very friendly thank you. It's very nice of you to reply in such a nice manner. I kow what I am asking is not a small thing. And I dont think badly of anyone because they can be of no help for me. This group is the only place where I can be understood and it makes me wanna carry on. I know many people say. "I wish I could help", but as you said it is not easy. I am determined to stick on my plan and try every single path. It's not easy for me either to go somewhere where I know no body but I have to risk something. Thank you again for your discouragement.
Peace
francois
3rd July 2005, 11:38 AM
Hello Bihbicat,
Your post was very friendly thank you. It's very nice of you to reply in such a nice manner. I kow what I am asking is not a small thing. And I dont think badly of anyone because they can be of no help for me. This group is the only place where I can be understood and it makes me wanna carry on. I know many people say. "I wish I could help", but as you said it is not easy. I am determined to stick on my plan and try every single path. It's not easy for me either to go somewhere where I know no body but I have to risk something. Thank you again for your encouragement.
Peace
francois
3rd July 2005, 11:40 AM
I am sorry, I wrote "discouragement" instead of "encouragement"
:oops:
bethanne
3rd July 2005, 03:32 PM
Francois,
I wonder if your best bet would be to connect with someone in
the group who can enlist the help of a compassionate member
of Congress to assist you in getting your visa. You would have
to explain to him/her that you are seeking medical treatment
which is not available in Turkey. Easier said than done, obviously.
When it is something like cancer or conjoined twins, foreigners
seem to be able to get to the U.S. and make the headlines. Your
worst obstacle will be trying to explain Rosacea.
Sorry I cannot be of more direct help to you. Just a thought..
Beth
francois
3rd July 2005, 04:02 PM
Hello Beth,
As you know not many people will consider rosacea as a condition that is not worth of getting treated abroad. Many turkish citizens can not get a visa even they fulfill the requirements, just because of the visa officer's suspect. I think it would be the same in my case. I also dont know whom to ask to reach to a member of Congress.
When you submit documents to the embassy, depending on the embassy's satisfaction you may or may not be called to the embassy for an interview. After the occurance of terrorist attacks, United States has set strict rules about foreigners.
I hope someone who also read your post may bring another point of view to the issue. Thank you anyway for the idea of medical treatment which I should also pay attention to.
Nothing is gained without efforts. Definitely I cant live with this condition and I will do my best to get it treated. Thanks a lot for your attention.
francois
3rd July 2005, 05:37 PM
Well,
I can be accepted to USA, Canada, Australia or UK as long as I apply for a graduate program. But the costs of those programs are very high. I will spent
all I have for my treatments. I need to minimize my life expenses otherwise I
will have to leave my treatments in the middle.
Since you dont live in a developing country, you cant understand it. But your country has also right. You would get poorer if many people migrated from developing countries to USA or Canada.
You guys are lucky to live in a place that offers you what you look for. Even in USA, many derms that dont understand this condition. Imagine Turkey. I dont remember having seen any red face around, I feel like I am one of the very rare cases, which I think is about the race. :)
Tamara
3rd July 2005, 06:49 PM
Francois,
I don't know how to help you get into the USA, but you might try Craig's List for shared housing options once you're here.
Tamara
IowaDavid
6th July 2005, 02:00 AM
Francios--a Turkish man I know just went through the visa process to get to the US. He ended up with a 10 year visa. I don't know how he did this, but I might be able to connect you with him. PM me or try my MSN if you'd like to discuss this.
David
coquilos1
9th July 2005, 04:04 AM
Francois,
I just recently completed a graduate program where I met a Turkish guy who was an instructor and had studied over here who wasn't incredibly rich. Unfortunately I am no longer in contact with him but there have to be Turkish connections here in the U.S. Keep up the hope. I am not sure how it is in economics, but many graduate programs over here often finance the education of their students at larger schools (assistantships). That was how it was for me, and there were many foriegn students in the department who received the same deal. You might want to continue exploring your options in higher education.
Good luck.
francois
29th July 2005, 10:25 PM
I havent even been diagonosed officially by rosacea. Derms say different things and I am stuck in this country, unable to go anywhere for treatments. More than 1 year, I am on rosacea-yahoo groups with no improvement at all.
Dr. Nase's book is no use for me either because I cant get anything here....
People tell me their opinions about going abroad but none of the ideas seem to work. I just cant get visa. I just wanna thank people who wanted to help...
Take care friends..
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