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16th June 2005, 03:21 PM
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16th June 2005, 03:34 PM
That sounds like a rather ridiculous notion.

Bilberry extract is used to improve circulation within the capillaries of the retina of the eye and inhibit cataract formation in the lens. The bilberry pigments decrease capillary permeability and fragility, and the tendency to bruise easily So many people take it to help with their eyesight. Using yr analogy are we to assume that those who terminate their use of this supplement would end up blind? I don't think so.

16th June 2005, 03:43 PM
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prryjones
16th June 2005, 04:02 PM
Hi Marc,
Yes...you are right on target. Once you stop taking pycnogenol....your heart explodes right out of your chest. Very messy. This has been shown in trial after trial.
Perry
ps Your eyeballs pop out, too.

16th June 2005, 04:19 PM
To be or not to be, that's the question

It's not ridiculous to wonder what would happen with your blood vessels the day you discontinue something that alters their structure

Regards,

Well if you feel that way it is probably wise that you don't take the supplement at all. You just might be one of the few that spontaneously combusts each year leaving nothing but a pair of shoes and a puff of smoke.

drnase
16th June 2005, 07:10 PM
Hi Marc,
Yes...you are right on target. Once you stop taking pycnogenol....your heart explodes right out of your chest. Very messy. This has been shown in trial after trial.
Perry
ps Your eyeballs pop out, too.




LOL....LOL......LOL. I read those abstracts. They were very well done studies. 56 patients were treated for vascular disorders for 6 months with pycnogenol. The results were excellent. Full clearance in 100% of patients. On follow up questionaires all widows replied that although their husband's hearts exploded right out of their chests the day after stopping pycnogenol and eye balls popping out right before gurgling their last words, they were truly satisfied with the treatment regimen (besides the heart bursting, eye popping thing). So, in conclusion we support the use of pycnogenol in the treatment of vascular disorders as long as the patient knows that he will in fact die a horrible death upon stopping the treatment. This study was funded by coffins-R-US.


Sorry Marc. We play back and forth. Actually a good question to a certain extent. There are no rebound effects like clonidine or other neural modifiers. This is purely a physical enhancement of blood vesssels and in certain constricted arteries in the heart increases nitric oxide slightly (but not in facial blood vessels because nitric oxide is already in overkill).

drnase
16th June 2005, 07:14 PM
Marc,

The proteins in these supplements are actually incorporated permanently into the basement membrane and vascular smooth muscle cells. It also changes capilllary fragility by strengthening the single cell line of capillaries with a thicker basement membrane.