Oil control

[G24]

The only one I have tried yet is the Dermalogica Oil Control lotion, but it's a bit tough for my skin. (Cointains Alcohol) Does anyone know of a good oil control lotion which is suited for VERY oily Rosacea skin?

Thanks.

G24

I can recommend on cutting down on any high GI carbs. They make yr body pump out higher levels of the hormone testosterone and in turn that increases yr oil production.

[G24]

That's a good idea, but it will not be enough.. My skin is VERY oily. :(

[pjbear57]

This may sound counterproductive, but I have found that the fewer oil control products I use, the less oily my skin is. There seems to be something in them that triggers a reaction in my skin. I use Phisoderm soap on my face, an oil free moisturizer for sensitive skin, and Loreal Feel Naturale foundation. If I watch other triggers (heat, cold, food, etc.), I don't have too much trouble.

[Buster]

I would say that a low dose accutane regimen like 2.5 mg or 5 mg or 10 mg, depending on what size is available, 3 times a week. This is effective.
I tried it for 6 months, 10 mg 3 times pr week, I think 5 mg would have been enough, but 10 mg is the smallest dosage the pills come in here. However, I was not too fond of the side effect, and I am into sport a lot, so that was not an advantage. I do think if the dosage can be as low as 2.5 mg, then the side effects might not be such a problem.
Here is a link to a study that was done with low dose isotretinoin ( search for seborrhea, isotretinoin)
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/action/doSearch

If you don`t like the thought of taking this drug, I would say that the Tease Zone Oil Control Gel from www.dermadoctor.com will hide the oil well, and maybe over time oil production will decrease.
Dermadoctor also has a product called Calm, Cool and Corrected 2n1 Rosacea Tx.

http://www.dermadoctor.com/product.asp?productid=821

It gets very good reviews from people with acne, rosacea and seborrhea.
I have just ordered it. It contains the same technology as the Tease Zone Gel in addition to anti-inflammatory and acne-fighting compounds.

Here is what Dermadoctor says about Seborrhea:

http://www.dermadoctor.com/pages/conditiondetail61.asp?X=1&WID=%7B8A05B2D4%2D5130%2D47F0%2D897D%2D55A99D1E831 B%7D

Some people have also had success with taking the herb Boswellia. It has anti-inflammatory properites, and is supposed to help reduce sebum output, too.

Here is a link
http://www.rosacea.co.uk/blog/2005/01/zileuton-boswellie-and-5-lipo.html


Best wishes,
Mads,
Norway

[G24]

Thank you for the replies. (Hyggelig med flere nordmenn) :) )

I will never in my life touch Accutane again, as this drug have caused me enough problems. (Like Rosacea).
I will look into the products you have linked to Buster.

Thanks,

G24

[NoMoreRed!]

I can recommend on cutting down on any high GI carbs. They make yr body pump out higher levels of the hormone testosterone and in turn that increases yr oil production.

Are you talking about insulin? I can't imagine how high GI/II carbs increases testosterone.

I would also recommend Accutane in small doses, though, I think it should be taken every day. I think the half life is about 24 hours, so it would be smart to divide the doses and take them every day.


Another Norwegian dude 8) Hallois, gutta! 8)


EDIT: D'oh, didn't read the last reply before posting.

[Buster]

I think that 3 times a week would be enough, as the effect of the pills will last over into the second day. If the half life of Accutane was the only concern, then there would not be a lasting effect of Accutane, as seen in people who go off it, and the effect remain for 6 months or more.
But, if 2.5 mg-pills can be obtained, then maybe once every day would be ok, but 10 mg every dai I would say is over kill, and would only give unnessesary side effects.

Maybe high carb intake increase the production of di-hydrotestosterone?

[Mermaid]

Hey G24,

When my skin was much oilier, I had a lot of success using blotting papers and tissues which you press gently against the skin and consequently absorbs all excess oil. Press very lightly. You can use them as often as you need and are very effective.

Some of the best ones are:

Clean and Clear blotting film. I shall give you the ingredients in case you are sensitive to any of the them. I found these to be extremely effective and my skin is super sensitive but they did a fantastic job.

The ingredients for the Clean and Clear are:
Propylene, Mineral Oil, 3,4-Dimethylbenzyl-idene Sorbitol, Zinc Stearate, Ultramarines Propylene, benzyl Sorbitol, and Stearate.

I can not tell you if the ingredients have changed at all since I haven't used them for a while as my skin is quite normal now.

You can also order a plain, unpowdered paper from Japonesque. The direct link is:

http://www.naimies.com/shopping/Product.asp?ID=4583&ca=517&cas=0

For those in the US, I remember reading that Ultra 3 sells a brand called Palladio, with rice powder or just plain ones. Sephora could be another place to try.

Other forum members also purchase generic brands from Walgreens. I live in Australia so I'm not sure what brands they come under but I believe that they may not be as gentle as the texture of the paper is rougher.

Another company you can try is Cory Cosmetics. They are called Powder Free Oil Control Facial Blotters. They are made from recycled wood pulp, real hemp and flaxseeds. They are 100% powder free and wont clog pores. They also claim to be super gentle and can be used on the eye area. They sell for $4.99 for 150 sheets and are available at www.corycosmetics.com

I hope this helps a little.

Mermaid

[NoMoreRed!]

I think that 3 times a week would be enough, as the effect of the pills will last over into the second day. If the half life of Accutane was the only concern, then there would not be a lasting effect of Accutane, as seen in people who go off it, and the effect remain for 6 months or more.
But, if 2.5 mg-pills can be obtained, then maybe once every day would be ok, but 10 mg every dai I would say is over kill, and would only give unnessesary side effects.

Maybe high carb intake increase the production of di-hydrotestosterone?

It may be induvidual, but it's pretty usual to use 10 mg/day. Anyway, it's always best to have even plasma concentrations of the drug, IMO. If one just uses it for oil control, and it works with three times a week, it should be no problem. But if one uses it to cure rosacea, even plasma concentrations of the drugs would be a great benefit.

[G24]

Thanks again folks :)

g24

[ihaterosacea]

Just to add to the Clean & Clear blotting sheets...they do work great, but if you wear a green coverup under your regular makeup, the blotting sheets tend to blot that off too. At least that has been my experience. I get extremely oily later in the day, even though I have dry skin, and when I tried the blotting sheets, it blotted off my powder makeup and my green coverup as well. I barely touched my skin!! I was then left with an almost normal skin tone with a dark beet-red spot!

Just be careful :oops:

[drnase]

bloting sheaphssa re gooouddd and l geentlej. Wlitothoaa tyru.

[Ajay]

I'm being thick here but can you tell me why my skin has only become oily since I was diagnosed with Rosacea. I never had a problem at all before then?

[pjbear57]

I've always had oily skin, but it's become super oily since rosacea entered my life. As I mentioned above, I've discovered that if I steer clear of oil control products, my skin doesn't get so oily. I had been trying everything to get the oil to slow down, but it just made it worse. I also keep oil blotting papers handy. They're a godsend. Watching my triggers also keeps the oil at bay. Especially refined sugar and chocolate (sigh :( ).

[Ajay]

I use a moisturiser from the Dr who has been doing my IPL, could it be makeing it worse?I'v found that the everyday type choc. makes me flush but a good quality Belgium one doesn't!!!

[pjbear57]

Ohhhhhh! Tell me more about the Belgium chocolate! :wink: I had to try different moisturizers until I found one I didn't have too much trouble with. I use a Suave brand that's oil free for sensitive skin with sunscreen. It works well for me.

[Ajay]

Where can I get this moisturiser from?My husband brought me a box of chocs from a trip I afraid I ate the lot over two days (it was a small box) and had no problems with my face, just my hips!!

[pjbear57]

Well, I don't know where you're located, but I get this moisturizer at WalMart. It's just an inexpensive Suave brand. Here is what is on the label: Suave Skin Therapy, Face, UV Protective Moisture Lotion, SPF 15. I had a hard time finding something that didn't make me break out or get oilier and this one does very well for me.

[Ajay]

Thanks I'll try and find it I'm in the UK.

[snwbdrloco84]

I have found that a low sugar chocolate like Lindt 85% dark chocolate, will not affect me negatively. Actually, I seem to be very pale after ingesting half of a 100g bar. Maybe it could be psychological response b/c I have convinced myself that dark chocolate is good for me based on alot of recent medical reports on it. I really think foods high in sugar like milk chocolate may aggravate acne and may trigger a flushing response. Honestly, even if chocolate caused me to break out, it is well worth it:D Now, I'm in the mood for chocolate, off to the supermarket8)

Ray

[pjbear57]

Go for it!! :D

[Ajay]

Yep that choc is fine for me too.It's lucky as I aviod so much stuff not haveing chocolat would be the end!!!!

[pjbear57]

Where does one find this chocolate?

[Ajay]

Here in the Uk I get it in the supermarket, it's in most places sometimes with the cake bakeing things.