Very Cool / New banner graphic

[Brady Barrows]

Warren,
This is a very cool forum and I am always impressed with your webmaster skills. Congratulations.

First of all let me congratulate you on the board, nice one! I really hope people come over and make it active.

Secondly PLEASE can we either have a selection of board colours to choose from or else could we make the colours kinder on the eyes? Dark writing on a white background is supposedly the best for clarity however white writing on black works pretty well.

Lastly, if you would like me to make a board graphic for the top of the site let me know and i'd be happy to do it.

[Chris23]

Hi all,

My first post on here, and I just wanted to say that the forum looks quality! I hope it will be better than the Yahoo board, and also easier to look up old posts and stuff.

Regards,
Chris

[Tamara]

Thanks so much for creating this forum.

[notforyou]

Hi Everyone,

This is exciting to be a member of a new board like this! I am looking forward to a better place to learn, educate and vent about this horrible condition. Hopefully everyone is here for the same reason and the ugly events of the "other" board can be avoided!!

Please let's all be friends and beat this beast together!

Peace!
Donna

(Music = Freedom, Rock On!) :wink:

[drnase]

Sally Ann,

That sounds great. I certainly would love to see some graphics.

[tryingtogetoverit]

Wanted to say thanks for creating this forum as well. I'm extremely happy to be a part of it.

OK, ive just designed two header graphics for this board using colour primarily. If we are establishing that the subsilver is now the default template i have designed the graphic using those main colour codes. Also ive added some sub-type but obviously if the consensus its that its not what were looking for i can easily dump it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage2.jpg


Any suggestions, comments etc etc

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage1.jpg

OK, i thought an icon was needed so have manipulated a clipart image as i thought it was an appropriate metaphor;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage4.jpg

with shadowing round the hands, not sure which one i like better.

[RedHotCanuck]

The last one with the hand is awesome. Nice job!!

[Ghost]

Canuck! You're so funny! :lol:

I like the last graphic, also. The shadow was a good idea. Thanks, Sally Ann.

Best,

Ghost

[drnase]

Sally Ann,

Thank you so much. I personally need to look at these over one or two days to let them sink in.

1. I love number one or two. You cant go wrong with either of these in my humble opinion.

2. I really like the 3rd and 4th one because it really is what this is all about -- it hits home. Please excuse me for the constructive comment because I cant even draw a stick figure, but my only concern is that this clipart does not even come close to your professional graphics that it looks a little lopsided. Thats actually a compliment. Can we tweek it a bit more to make the hands and blood look a little more real like the Simpsons? This is a compliment.

3. I was going to correct you on your spelling ......."colours" as I am a snotty American who thinks we are always right. But I just realized that I am in the minority becase a New Zealandar started this and we now have several Aussies on board. Do I just swith all "s" to "z"?

Warm Regards and sincere thanks for the great work. They are eye catching and will add considerably to the group because first impressions really count.

[Ghost]

Dr Nase,

It works the other way.

In English: cosy

In American: cozy

In English: Nase

In American: Naze


The choice is yourz :D

Ghost

[drnase]

Thank you ghost. You see, you people across the sea even affect my own language and spelling. Stop it. Pleazzze. :D

Yep i see what yr saying.

If we like the main design then anything can be used as a logo/icon or else we can just have the lettering on it's own. The reason the hands jumped out at me was it was like us sinking in a sea of red (rosacea) and then reaching out for a helping hand, i didn't necessarily see the red as blood though lol - perhaps thats because youve had an operation recently :D

Anyhoo if anyone has other designs then i think it would be cool to see them. i can't be the only one who spends far too much time messing around with Photoshop!

ETA: anyone know why the smilies are not working even though they are selected to be ON in my profile? Is it just me that doesn't see them, just the code?

Now i'm not sure if we were hating the hands because they were cartoony but assuming we weren't ive fixed the image to look crisper, on one i've added noise to blend with the background more, the other i have left.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage5.jpg

[Ghost]

Sally Ann,

I prefer the one without the noise (it looks cleaner -- of course, I'm looking at your images on a lap top, so my screen angle is probably different from yours). (I also liked the shadow on your earlier example.)

Thank you.

Ghost

[Kelli]

I like the color of the banners, but I'm not crazy about the fonts. (I'm not just talking out my butt here. I'm a graphic artist, too.)

I like either one, but not both together. Do you have Nueva? It's a funky, but sophisticated font (IMO).

Again, just a suggestion. Not meaning to step on any toes. :-)

kelli if yr a graphic artist then definitely step on toes as my qualification goes way back and i am not using it currently. Like i said i would love to see other designs that are better so please go ahead and i'll take a step back for a while x

OK, i have tweaked and introduced realistic looking hands and a better colour of red that blends with the general colour scheme. On one i've added some texture;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage7.jpg

Last one with different subtext;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage9.jpg

Two different ones and now i shall stop lol 8)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage11.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage10.jpg

[Kelli]

Sally_ann - I like the last one you did best. I really like the new hands better. I figured out what I didn't like about the other hands once you posted the new ones. It's the ripples in the color. I might like them better without those lines.

I showed you the one I did earlier today. I just did this new one, too. Figured I'd just post them up here and let y'all do whatever with them.

First one:
Thinking behind it - The petals on the outside of the rose are symbolic for our outter edges being red, but our core is pure.
http://www.k-squared.com/kelli/Rosacea/banner1.jpg

Second one:
Was more of the rosacea being a mask symbolism.
http://www.k-squared.com/kelli/Rosacea/banner2.jpg

(Think I got my sizing wrong on the second one. OOPS!)

[Warren]

There is also no need for the forum to be called "The Rosacea Forum". I just picked the most boring name I could think of at the time, so If you think of something better then please post it.

[Kelli]

Just some thoughts off the top of my head:

Rosacea Retreat
Rosacea Place

I'm trying to think of places where you can escape. That's what I think of these boards as - a place where I can be ME, even though you can't see my face, you still know it's red and you accept that.

[drnase]

kelli,

Thank you. I absolutely love the second one. The style and symbolism. I think the rosacea forum is a fine name. Short, sweet and to the point.

He He i'm really enjoying doing this, i'm such a child :wink:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage17.jpg

and in context but slightly blurred due to the rubbish web hosting restrictions;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage18.jpg

[Warren]

There is also the option of having a smaller banner to the left of all the buttons to Search, Login, etc with nothing above.

[Ghost]

The mask graphic is very good. It's so right that it gives one a feeling of deja vu.

The Rosacea Forum I think is a good name also. It's exactly what we have here: a place to meet and discuss rosacea.

[Kelli]

Thanks. :-)

I do like the one you jsut posted, Sally_anne. NICE!!! Very clean.

[RedHotCanuck]

I think they are all great. As of right now, my vote would be for kelli's 2nd one (mask symbolism).

Good job everyone !!

Mike

Aw thanks Kelli :)

I am now off to add a sig saying that my avatar is NOT me! My god if it was i wouldn't be on this sodding forum lol

[Kelli]

:-)

BTW - <----- that is me, on my 3rd birthday. Strawberry Shortcake ROCKED! :lol:

ha ha sooo cute! :D

Now using the mask as the design of choice ive done another. however it struck me initially that redmask.org might be using a mask as their image of choice. however at the mo their website is down so i can't check that out. I'm fairly sure that one rosacea affiliated site uses a rose so i'm wondering if its that i'm thinking of.

Anyhoo, the strapline 'the future of rosacea, in our hands' was obviously to go with the hand imagery. If everyone wanted to keep it i see no prob with sticking with it regardless, however i came up with 'facing a brighter future' to link up with mask ---------> hiding face ...yada yada yada.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage20.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage19.jpg

[Kelli]

I will say that the mask is an original. Not just clip art. I drew it last night, so no worries about copyright infringments.

I think if y'all try to avoid every cliched thing about rosacea, we'd run out of things really fast. Mask, rose, blotch of red (RRF logo). I dunno.

I like the new tag line, though, Sally_ann. (Sorry about the E earlier)

Oh dear, i feel like from what youve just said i may have been unintentionally abrupt in my last post. If it seemed like i was i'm sorry. I just can't get onto redmask to see what their using but it doesn't matter even if they are using a mask, i'm sure it would look entirely different anyhow :?

Just to add the image i have made was by manipulating and enlarging upon a basic mask template so theres no problem with copyright infringement with either.

[Kelli]

OH NO!!! You were fine! I just wanted to let you know that I created it, so there would be no problems, and if you wanted to change it any.

I'm sorry if I sounded abrupt myself. Wasnt meaning to. :mrgreen:

Thank god! i hate upsetting people :( , unless i really want to :wink:

[RedHotCanuck]

What if you made the red part of the face sad, and the white part of the face happy? Then you'd see a transition from red (sad) to white (happy) ..

Nevermind.. terrible idea. Just being goofy ;)

Good job.. I like it !! 8)

Easily done, just for you! :wink:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage21.jpg

[Jim]

I like the red/white mask with the smile on both sides that sally did. The sad/happy one doesn't come off clearly showing the two emotions (in my opinion). If you want to keep the two emotions approach, I recommend putting more of a downward/upward turn on the corners of the mouth to show a stronger difference in the expression.

Just a humble opinion from yet another graphic artist. Great looking banners. :D

Jim

I have to admit Jim i liked that one better as well, but i can change anything to anything so i'm not that fussed.

Warren mentioned earlier that we could also change the gifs that indicate when a thread has been read. i've just knocked a couple of designs out whilst Photoshop is still open. i have to admit i find the original bells we're currently using a little bit subtle, but whether the envelopes would be a whole lot clearer, your'll have to tell me.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage24.jpg

[Ghost]

Hi Guys,

I'm enjoying the logo parade.

Will there be a poll in a couple of weeks for the favorite?

Me, I still like that first guitar pick-shaped mask. It shows the red and the white and that it's a puzzle; but it all fits together. And is it one face, or two faces nuzzling? That's very important. This symbol will mean different things to different people and that's good. All in all, it's a positive symbol.

Can't wait to see what we end up with!

[RedHotCanuck]

When we get a few more submissions, we will have a pole set up and then get the winning graphics implemented.

Mike

He He i've just realised that some of the bells shake :lol:

So of course i had to shake my ass as well :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/hotenvelope.gif


I will go to bed now and stop amusing myself lol

ETA: redhotcanuck; is that a pole we can all dance around :wink:

[RedHotCanuck]

Shake that booty .. shake that booty ..

Thanks for all your help!! They look great.

[said mafia stylee]forget about eeit[/said mafia stylee]

I wouldn't do it if i wasn't enjoying myself, i'm a bit like that :wink:

OK, just finished the hot envelope animated gif in two sizes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/hotenvelopesmallgif.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/hotenvelopelarge.gif

[Ghost]

They're very cute, Sally Ann. The big one is the one my eyes are drawn to.

Been working on this one this evening, with another strapline lol.

I was thinking of the fact that we have a choice of two templates now and a blue background will obviously look rather unsightly against the graphite background. So i did a transparant version and it works ok with both.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage27.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage28.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage26.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaimage25.jpg

[Ghost]

Hi Sally Ann,

You've done so much work!

I like the new red envelope. And the new slogan. Can I suggest a hyphen between 'Rosacea' and 'Free'?

Just one little thing about the new masks -- while the red mask is, indeed, a mask that we live behind and want to remove, I don't think a clear or white mask replacing the red one is the goal.

In other words, under the red mask of rosacea in reality is a human face, not another mask.

Would it be difficult to represent a healthy human face being uncovered under the red mask?

[Kelli]

The thing that worries me about the smile/frown is that is the common sign for the theatre. Comedy/drama. I wouldn't think that would be something that would want to be condoned here. That's just me. Also why I made no expression on the one I did.

But I think you're on a good track. how'd you do the envelopes? ImageReady?

Ghost, thanks for yr comments.

I did consider the hyphen and it would be an easy enough addition to make. In regard to the design/image/logo, its a tricky one because its obviously very subjective. I take yr point but i think the main symbolism is made without making it overly fussy which is always a problem when you overwork any idea.

I should have time over the weekend to keep playing with ideas and maybe we can have a main vote on Mon or Tues.

Kelli, yep i used Imageready.

[Warren]

If anybody has some spare time there is the front page for the whole site http://rosaceagroup.org It is ok at the moment but if anybody wants to rework it they can.

Also on a side note the whole site is now no longer "owned" by me. There are now a couple of people with full controls to the whole website.

This is our website and we can do what we want with it.

This is a nice variation on the last logo, kind of takes into account Ghosts request (i did say kind of :wink: ) and includes the hyphen. This is probably my last design now unless i get some creative revelation over the weekend :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/animatedheaderfinal.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/animatedheaderfinal2.gif

[RedHotCanuck]

How about:

The Rosacea Forum
WHERE ROSACEA-FREE WILL BE REALITY

[Lycaon]

mt 2 pence worth....great graphics wish i could do them. One thing, im not sure that 'rosacea free can be /will be reality' is quite the right message for the site.. couldnt a more simple ' working towrds a brighter future' type logo be more realistic. This is what the site is doing surely


or ' the futures bright, not red but white'..........not really, my joke

Hey guys. The strapline can be anything! I think the best idea is that Dr Nase has the last veto on design and wording, considering in essence this site is his baby.

[Lycaon]

wasnt critisizing by the way sally......thats some incredable work. is it hard to learn that kinda stuff?

Errrm not really as although i have a graphic design qualification i taught myself CAD as the college couldn't afford any computers 10 years or so ago and everything we did was by hand.

My PC is antiquated so you certainly don't have to have a top spec system, i think its just a case of having the time to play with the software really.

Warren, I've just had a chance to look at the main page you linked to and although i am not that great at designing websites/pages, i'll see if i can remember how to do it and work on some ideas later.

I think it would be a good idea to have the website more linked to the forum through colour and design elements with a nice navigation design down the side. Dunno. I haven't any hosting at the moment so i'll prob just preview and do a screen capture or two.

[Warren]

You should be able to upload to http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/ now and you can probably upload html documents too and view them.

[Warren]

add to the list:
a graphic for The Rosacea Search Engine Project (or whatever it should be called)
a graphic for [[Main_Page|Rosacea Wiki]] (top left corner- the default sunflower is ok)

Ok. Have to say my webpage/building experience is extremely limited so the design is probably rather pants in comparison to what someone else can rustle up in 5 mins, but for what its worth i've done this; http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/indexworkinprogress3.html

If there are any script errors let me know as for some reason the mouseover action can generate script errors in IE above 5, at least it did ages ago, but being a pleb i couldn't correct it as i wasn't sure what about teh script code it hated :oops:

I just did this one integrating the last logo design; http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/indexworkinprogress4.html . Obviously i can add any logo in its place and i'll probably faff with the buttons but right now i've gone crosseyed :shock:

And with a change of buttons; http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/indexworkinprogress6.html

[Chris23]

The new banner looks great Sally_ann, nice work.

[Warren]

Instead of calling the site "The Rosacea group" I think it should be "RosaceaGroup.org", I also added some other languages to the front page as this site is for everyone from around the world.

Svenska (Swedish)
Rosacea är ett kroniskt sjukdomstillstånd som utvecklas stegvis och karakteriseras av flush, rodnad, kvisslor, röda gryniga ögon, hetta eller sveda och i vissa svårare fall grovporig klumpig näsa (rhinophyma).
Español (Spanish)
El acné rosacea es una enfermedad de la piel limitada a la nariz, mejillas, barbilla, y frente.
Italiano (Italian)
L'acne rosacea è una malattia della pelle del viso, caratterizzata da arrossamento, seborrea e formazione di bottoni follicolari simili a quelli dell'acne volgare.
Français (French)
La rosacée, connue aussi sous le nom de couperose est une maladie cutanée incurable au départ bénigne qui se manifeste par des rougeurs chroniques au niveau du nez, des joues, parfois aussi au niveau du menton et du front.

I don't know whether you want the forum and main site to share a similar design of logo but if you do then really one needs to be picked before any changes are made to the wording.

ETA: Heres (http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/animatedheaderrosaceaorg.gif) an example of the new wording and heres (http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/indexworkinprogress7.html) an example of new page and finally heres (http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/indexworkinprogress8.html) page with ice blue mouseover buttons.

Just a quickie. Warren i'm not sure if you would prefer rosacea.org to be a button instead of the writing you have added to the top left hand side of the forum. if so all you would need to do is add the mini home icon for example http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceabuttonmini.gif to the templates/subSilver/images folder and then write the following code (in red) into the code which covers the buttons;


<td align="center" valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"> <span class="mainmenu">templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_house1.gifRosaceaGroup.org (http://rosaceagroup.org)<span class="mainmenu">templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_faq.gifFAQ (faq.php)</span><span class="mainmenu"> templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_search.gifSearch (search.php) templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_members.gifMemberlist (memberlist.php) templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_groups.gifUsergroups (groupcp.php)
</td>
</tr>

which would give you this kind of thing http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceabutton.gif as the first button.

Thats great apart from the spacing, try this instead;

<td align="center" valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"> <span class="mainmenu">templates/subSilver/images/templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_home.gifRosaceaGroup.org (http://rosaceagroup.org)</span><span class="mainmenu">templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_faq.gifFAQ (faq.php)</span><span class="mainmenu"> templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_search.gifSearch (search.php) templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_members.gifMemberlist (memberlist.php) templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_groups.gifUsergroups (groupcp.php)
</td>

and then with the technical assistance it would probably be tidier to do this;

<td align="left" valign="bottom"><span class="gensmall">
Technical assistance: Main Admin (admin@rosaceagroup.org)

You last visited on Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:17 pm

The time now is Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:02 pm
</span><span class="nav">Rosacea Forum Index (index.php)</span></td>

to make it look like this;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaforumsnapshot.jpg

[drnase]

I love the graphics and home page. That will look awesome.

Did I miss my decoder ring in the mail. I see all this computer gibberish and I dont have my fancy decoder ring to see if they are making fun of me. Somebody get me a decoder ring! Or at least a ChiaPet (sp?).

[Warren]

<td align="center" valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"> <span class="mainmenu">templates/subSilver/images/templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_home.gifRosaceaGroup.org (http://rosaceagroup.org)</span><span class="mainmenu">templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_faq.gifFAQ (faq.php)</span><span class="mainmenu"> templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_search.gifSearch (search.php) templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_members.gifMemberlist (memberlist.php) templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_groups.gifUsergroups (groupcp.php)
</td>

After a while it becomes easier to read than english. (Sally_ann I will update the admin contact bit later)

[roja no mas]

Hi,

I like the last graphic banner, one suggestion

just scooch up the Box w/ hand up a little to center to the words than its a ok by me.

I would say the hand graphic represents, user helping user as well as red to white, meaning, oh gosh my user name

roja no mas or in engilsh "red no more"

I'm glad you like it Dr Nase. Now do you prefer the mouseover buttons to come up orange or blue? Once i know exactly what i'm doing i can incorporate the logo URL into the source code and finalise the webpage design - then it can go up.

just scooch up the Box w/ hand up a little to center to the words than its a ok by me

roja no mas i'm not quite sure what you mean. Are you looking at the last design which we seem to have decided on or one of the first ones with the hands?

Warren, if you want the Technical Assistance line to sit at the bottom of the forum, which personally i think looks better, then it would be a case of;

The phpBB Group : 2002
// --></span><span class="gensmall">
Technical assistance: <A HREF="mailto:admin@rosaceagroup.org">Main Admin

</A></span><span class="copyright">
Powered by phpBB (http://www.phpbb.com/)
&copy; 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

</span></div>

which would look like this;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Sally_ann6/rosaceaforumsnapshot2.jpg

To add the forum logo to the top you would need to make the following change;

remove the following code;

<span class="maintitle">The Rosacea Forum</span>

and replace with the red code i've added here;

</script>
</head>
<body bgcolor="#E5E5E5" text="#000000" link="#006699" vlink="#5493B4">

<a name="top"></a>

<table width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10" border="0" align="center">
<tr>
<td class="bodyline"><table width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0">
<tr>

<td align="center" width="742" valign="middle">
http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/animatedheaderforforum.gif

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" border="0">
<tr>
<td align="center" valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><span class="mainmenu">templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_home.gifRosaceaGroup.org (http://rosaceagroup.org)<span class="mainmenu">templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_faq.gifFAQ (faq.php)</span><span class="mainmenu"> templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_search.gifSearch (search.php) templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_members.gifMemberlist (memberlist.php) templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_groups.gifUsergroups (groupcp.php)
</td>

Obviously it would be neater if you moved the .gif file into the board images folder and then shortened the url accordingly.

[Warren]

I think the file sizes are too big. can you make the the blue background a 1 pixel wide repeating image and have the other images on top of it.

[drnase]

I am just along for the ride guys and gals. Do your thing. We do think there is a little bit of showboating going on with all the lingo.

I can do it to. Hey RedHotCanuck:

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[drnase]

Please dont go back to the brown background color. I cant read yet with no contrast. Please.

[drnase]

Hey RedHotCanuck,

Sally said and I quote, "Shake my arse". Would you please delete her post and have a talking to her.

[drnase]

Hey Group,

If you have not picked up on it yet, if I dont know what I am doing (like graphics) I become destructive instead of instructive. RedHOt -- ban me temporarily.

I think the Logos are awesome and the large "shake your arse" envelopes work for me.

[Warren]

To change to the new style click on the profile button (top of page) and select the subSilver_with_banner option for Board Style.

He He that looks fab! if i say so myself :oops:

Yr absolutely right that i could lose some memory size on the blue background but right now i'm adjusting so many things i think i'll mess the whole thing up if i start redoing the psd files and reanimating.

Dr Nase noone is showboating i promise you. I only know a tiny bit of html and i was just trying to take some code work off the shoulders of Warren as i'm sure hes trying to do loads right now and twiddling with graphics is a low priority.

OK, finalised the website design and uploaded everything into the following folder (http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website). I'm happy for the unimportant images to be crunched, obviously i'd have to do the logo myself if necessary.

http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/rosaceagroupindex.html

Plus once the images are cached the download time is irrelevant anyway.

[drnase]

Lookin good

Search page;

http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/rosaceagroupsearch.html

Survey page;

http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/rosaceasurvey.html

[Kelli]

I can't tell if it's me, but it looks like the header is left justified, and the center graphic is centered. I like the look of it all, except that that's throwing it off.

If it's just me, though, I'll get over it. :-)

He He i've just re-edited that post about fifty times and then deleted it as i'm still not happy with teh sodding pages so i shall go fiddle some more and then upload the final versions that don't have a moving line everytime you click :roll:

Bloody horrah i think i am finally happy and if theres anything wrong with them now i officially DON'T CARE :mrgreen::mrgreen:


Original message:

Warren,

Just finalised the index, survey and search pages. Didn't realise y'd uploaded the index page, but seeing as you have, yr'll have to change the urls again to make the paths correct - sorreee :wink: . It would be best to have the Survey and Search buttons link set target: _parent as the survey and search files work within the design of the site.

http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/rosaceagroupindex.html

http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/rosaceagroupsearch.html

http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/rosaceasurvey.html

I shall now go and slave over the product index pages.

[Kelli]

Is this the way it's supposed to look?

http://www.k-squared.com/kelli/page.jpg

I'd like to say yes :D
I might just have found the prob (i say might! :wink: )

Whats this one looking like?

http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/rosaceagroupindex2.html

[roja no mas]

Hi,

I was talking about the last example (hand w shadow)

regards

roja no mas

[Kelli]

MUCH better!!! I see a slight, like 1 pixel gap, at the top, but who cares! Looks awesome! Great job!

[Warren]

I'd like to say yes :D
I might just have found the prob (i say might! :wink: )

Whats this one looking like?

http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/rosaceagroupindex2.html

The main page opens that file and opututs it so you can edit uploads/sally_ann/website/rosaceagroupindex2.html and it will show up straight away.

Thanks for the help Kelli 8)

Cheers Warren, although the index.html page is exactly the same as i corrected them all once i was made aware of the error.

[Spav]

I don't mean to be picky, but i'm geting a runtime error when the page loads and on the mouseovers. It's like the blue buttons don't exist.

I did warn people i was a complete amateur when it came to building webpages and also that above IE5 there might be some weird mouseover script error so me thinks we need someone who maybe uses Dreamweaver (i lost mine!) to do a bit of debugging.

[Spav]

I'm not sure if your interested but the problems due to the javascript code.

There is a function in the current code that loads the blue buttons:

function preloadImages() {
if (document.images) {
over_redbutton1 = newImage(/*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/bluebuttondiscuss.gif');
over_redbutton2 = newImage(/*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/bluebuttonsearch.gif');
over_redbutton3 = newImage(/*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/bluebuttonreviews.gif');
over_redbutton4 = newImage(/*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/bluebuttonknowledge.gif');
over_redbutton5 = newImage(/*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/bluebuttonsurveys.gif');
over_redbutton6 = newImage(/*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/bluebuttonaware.gif');
over_redbutton7 = newImage(/*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/bluebuttonexternal.gif');
preloadFlag = true;
}

This is wrong and should be changed to:

function preloadImages() {
if (document.images) {

over_redbutton1 = new Image();
over_redbutton1.src = /*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/bluebuttondiscuss.gif';

over_redbutton2 = new Image();
over_redbutton2.src = /*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/bluebuttonsearch.gif';

over_redbutton3 = new Image();
over_redbutton3 = /*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/bluebuttonreviews.gif';

over_redbutton4 = new Image();
over_redbutton4.src = /*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/bluebuttonknowledge.gif';

over_redbutton5 = new Image();
over_redbutton5.src = /*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/bluebuttonsurveys.gif';

over_redbutton6 = new Image();
over_redbutton6.src = /*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/bluebuttonaware.gif';
over_redbutton7 = new Image();
over_redbutton7.src = /*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/bluebuttonexternal.gif';
preloadFlag = true;
}

Then you have to change the code for the onmoseover and onmouseout events.

This will need to done for all the menu buttons. the Discussion Forum onmouseover used to be:

onmouseover="changeImages( /*CMP*/'redbutton1',/*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/bluebuttondiscuss.gif');

Change this to:

onmouseover="document.images.redbutton1.src=over_redbutton1.src ;

and change the onmouseout to:

onmouseout="document.images.redbutton1.src=/*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/redbuttondiscuss.gif';

If you do the same for the other buttons and where i've put redbutton1 change to corresponding button name it should work.

ooooh spav do me a favour and do it for me! I'm working on something else right now and really need to get it done. If you go to;
http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/

and then click on sallyann and then website yr'll see the files that are currently in use and still editable. the main forum is currently linked to the page http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/rosaceagroupindex2.html

[Spav]

I've done it. Can't seem to get the bluebuttonreviews.gif to be displayed though.

I've also noticed that when i click on the banner i'm forwarded to the rosaceagroupindex.html page

ah yeah because that was the original page, so that url can be changed to index2.html.

Hmmm about the blue button business, is it showing when you put in the direct path? ie can you see it here?;

http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/bluebuttonreviews.gif

ETA, i see whats happened! :idea: Youve missed the .src out. It should read over_redbutton3 = new Image();
over_redbutton3.src = /*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/bluebuttonreviews.gif';

Ok i've edited it and i'll go through the other pages now, see if things are working better and if you don't mind when i finish the product review pages could you make the necesary edits for me on those as well?

Cheers x

[Spav]

if you don't mind when i finish the product review pages could you make the necesary edits for me on those as well?
Yea sure

Spav, how come on the other pages they don't have the .src at all, is it not actually necessary?

<csactiondict>
<script type="text/javascript"><!--
var preloadFlag = false;
function preloadImages() {
if (document.images) {
over_rosaceagroupredbuttmain = newImage(/*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/rosaceagroupbluebuttmain.gif');
over_rosaceagroupredsearch = newImage(/*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/rosaceagroupbluesearch.gif');
over_rosaceagroupredreview = newImage(/*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/rosaceagroupbluereview.gif');
over_rosaceagroupredproduct = newImage(/*URL*/'http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/rosaceagroupblueproduct.gif');
preloadFlag = true;
}
}

// --></script>
</csactiondict>


If you could debug that id be grateful (comes from the page http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/rosaceaproductreview.html )

[Spav]

Sally,

I supposed to be working so i'll correct it tonight or tomorrow morning.

With regards to your question about src. I am no javascript expert but i am not aware of any javascript function called 'newImage'. Javascript does however have an Image object and 'new' is a keyword in javascript for instantiating an object. the code new Image() forms the objects constructor. As far as i'm aware this does not take an URL as a parameter. So you have to create the image object then assign the URL to the objects src attribute.

ah interesting.

[Spav]

ah interesting.

Is it? :shock: I find it rather dull my self.

I am quite odd.

[Warren]

It will probably be a week before I properly change all of the site over, as I am busy at the moment.

Warren no rush at all from where i am, i am re-editing at the moment on the rosacea.org site as the more i understand the software i'm using the tidier i can get the pages. Its all a learning curve i tell ya! :mrgreen:

If anyone wouldn't mind clicking around on the following pages that cover the skincare product review pages.

If there are any broken links or images aren't showing, script errors or the page breaks up and looks odd on the screen i'd appreciate knowing about it. If you want to slag it off and tell me its crap id appreciate you keeping that to yrself :mrgreen:

http://www.rosaceagroup.org/uploads/sally_ann/website/rosaceaproductreview.html

ooops btw, ignore the Search, Add Review and Add Products button links as i haven't done them yet and the search link seems to be dead anyhow so i'd need to check that out with Warren.

[Tamara]

Sally Ann, Wow! This products page is amazing. With all the little pictures of the products and everything. I'm excited to see what it will be like when everyone rates the products they've tried. It should be real informative. It's fun to see this site organizing all the information we have available. We should be more potent and powerful when we're organized.

Tamara

Sorry i cannot take responsibility for content, i believe that compliment needs to go to Warren.

[Tamara]

It's obvious Warren deserves LOTS of compliments and thanks! Without him, where would we be?

THANK YOU WARREN!!!

Tamara

Spav, if yr still about, are the rosacea product through pages causing any script errors for you?

I realised i had my IE settings set to 'disable script bugging' so of course they weren't showing up an error for me. Directly i unticked the box i could see what you were seeing, but it seems to be sorted for me now, i just wanted to double check its not causing a problem for anyone else.

Ta x

[Spav]

Hi Sally,

I have to say i'm still getting the errors. It's up to you whether it's worth worrying about. Script debugging will only be used by developers anyway so nobody else will notice. I was just a bit concerned because i could see what the code was meant to do.

At the moment the code seems to be back to what it was before i changed anything. So the javascript code is effectively 'junk' and is not being recognised by the javascript interpreter which is causing the errors.

I know, im sorry i had to re-edit the layout as the margins were screwed and for some reason by moving things about the javascript re-writes disappeared along the way :(

[Winnie M]

Hi Sally,

The actual you doesn't look like a rosacean :P

Looking forward to view your layout.

Best wishes


I know, im sorry i had to re-edit the layout as the margins were screwed and for some reason by moving things about the javascript re-writes disappeared along the way :(

The avatar is actually me!

Thanks Winnie, i only have the flushing componant so 95% of the time i am fortunate enough to look like a non-rosacean.

The pages are done now so it can all be viewed at http://rosaceagroup.org/

[Winnie M]

Hi Sally,

You will look like a non-rosacean all the time very soon. :P

Warren and you have good design cells!! Thank you both and Dr. Nase and those in the backstage for contributing so much to this forum!! Your design is great!! I like the masks, the changing colour is cool!! But I like the red colour everywhere else (not the masks) lighter, a very light red might be more pleasant to the eyes?

Best wishes





Thanks Winnie, i only have the flushing componant so 95% of the time i am fortunate enough to look like a non-rosacean.

The pages are done now so it can all be viewed at http://rosaceagroup.org/