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realgone
12th July 2009, 09:37 PM
Though your facing is taking the blunt and showing all the signs of something wrong, the real culprit is your gut. It is heat generated outwardly on your skin, but the cure and answer is your digestive system.

Here is my story.

I have been struggling with Rosacea for about a year now. It started last summer after taking a broad spectrum antibiotic. I researched all about Rosacea, but still kept thinking that the antibiotic had something to do with it. I had perfectly clear skin prior to taking the antibiotic to a skin disaster, light acne, redness like a lobster and tiny bumps covering my entire face, neck, chest, and back over half down my trunk.

I told my doctor that I though the antibiotic caused something to go awry in my system, but they just ignored that, tested me for lupus and autoimmune diseases the came out negative and sent me to a dermatologist. I told him that I this all started after taking an antibiotic, but he just ignored me and prescribed another antibiotic. The antibiotic would clear me up, but as soon as I went off them, I would flare up again.

I read something that supported my belief that this Rosacea was indeed caused by the antibiotic that I took. It caused Dysbiosis, some call it SIBO. Learn this word and find someone to support it. I finally scheduled an appointment with a Naturopathic Doctor. She confirmed my worries and has put me on a 9 week Candida diet that will kill off the bacterial or Candida overgrowth I have in my digestive system. It will then balance the flora back to what they are supposed to be. The diet is very restrictive, and includes digestive enzymes, very strong refrigerated probiotics, and antifungals. It is a three step process. If anyone is interested in the program I am on, I will provide the information if you respond to this post asking for it.

I am currently on day 10. No antibiotics, no sugar, no alcohol, no dairy. Usually when I go off the antibiotics my skin gets real bad. This time I had flare ups for the first week or so, but my skin is really starting to clear up in these last three days, the redness, acne and bumps are not out of control like they normally would be at this point of not taking antibiotics.

I hope to post again at the end of 9 weeks.

Here are some links to learn more about SIBO and Dysbiosis

Dysbiosis explanation. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysbiosis)
SIBO explained (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_bowel_bacterial_overgrowth_syndrome)


Here is some info on the SIBO Rosacea link

Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth in Rosacea: Clinical Effectiveness of Its Eradication.

Clin Gastroenterol Hepatol. 2008 May 2;

Authors: Parodi A, Paolino S, Greco A, Drago F, Mansi C, Rebora A, Parodi AU, Savarino V

BACKGROUND & AIMS: To better understand the role of small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) in rosacea, we aimed to assess the presence of SIBO in patients with rosacea and the clinical effectiveness of its eradication. METHODS: We enrolled 113 consecutive rosacea ambulatory patients (31 M/82 F; mean age, 52 +/- 15 years) and 60 healthy controls who were sex- and age-matched. Patients and controls underwent lactulose and glucose breath tests (BTs) to assess the presence of SIBO. Patients positive for SIBO were randomized to receive rifaximin therapy (1200 mg/day for 10 days) or placebo. A group of patients with negative BTs were also treated with rifaximin. Eradication was assessed 1 month after the end of therapy. Two dermatologists, unblinded on therapy, evaluated rosacea patients before and after treatment on the basis of an objective scale. RESULTS: The prevalence of SIBO was higher in patients than controls (52/113 vs 3/60, P < .001). After eradication, cutaneous lesions cleared in 20 of 28 and greatly improved in 6 of 28 patients, whereas patients treated with placebo remained unchanged (18/20) or worsened (2/20) (P < .001). Placebo patients were subsequently switched to rifaximin therapy, and SIBO was eradicated in 17 of 20 cases. Fifteen had a complete resolution of rosacea. After antibiotic therapy, 13 of 16 patients with negative BTs for SIBO remained unchanged, and this result differed from SIBO-positive cases (P < .001). CONCLUSIONS: This study demonstrated that rosacea patients have a significantly higher SIBO prevalence than controls. Moreover, eradication of SIBO induced an almost complete regression of their cutaneous lesions and maintained this excellent result for at least 9 months.

thatguy
13th July 2009, 12:51 AM
Hey,

Thanks for posting this. Take a look at my thread on SIBO and rosacea:

http://rosaceagroup.org/The_Rosacea_Forum/showthread.php?t=13631

Can you keep track of your progress with some photos?

Kiss from a rose
13th July 2009, 08:41 PM
Damn you vital organs *punches self in gut*

I have my fingers crossed mine is digestion related ... i'd be most pleased if it were.

Anyway, thats some good news... keep going!

i-red
14th July 2009, 12:07 AM
Thanks Realgone,

I'd like to know more of the specifics of your regimine.

I started looking into this last week, but backed off after finding much conflicting information online on what to avoid and what to eat on a Candida Diet.

Thanks.

snivi
15th July 2009, 03:28 AM
I hope this works for you. I may start this stuff myself. I am out of options it seems.

MasK
16th July 2009, 09:19 AM
Finally someone posting about the real causes.
I've been on antacid during ten years, starting to developp candida albicans and dysbiosis.
I'm fighting with that for 2 years, because my skin was so red and hot (yes like everybody's skin here!), but I didn't feel so much digestive problems at that time, they came later.
Now my skin is clear until I take carbohydrates, otherwise fermentation occurs, then flushing, redness and all the problems.
Candida and dysbiosis are causing leaky gut syndrome, and IBS (irritable bowel syndrome), constipation, diarrhea, headaches, dizzyness, brain fog, etc.
But, even if you don't have digestive complaints at this point, you can have redness, papules, or eczema, seb derm, etc.
So, just TRY. Take a look to that and get tested for dysbiosis/candida.
The antibiotics and all the topical medications are dangerous!
Once again it is just my opinion, I don't say I'm right, I say that it worked for me and for a lot of ppl.

maroon5
17th July 2009, 09:24 AM
I found this post very interesting and wondered if you could pass the information of your diet changes onto me?

I have always wondered if my 10 years or so of being on Anti-Biotics for my acne as a teenager and young adult, could have triggered my Rosacea. I certainly never had it before then.

Obviously it might not be Dysbiosis I have, but when I read that link you provided it seemed to sound very familiar to my story and symptoms.

Please let us know how this works for you, very keen to hear more :)

Thanatos
17th July 2009, 10:03 AM
Yeah, I would also like to know what your dietary regime involves.

maroon5
19th July 2009, 08:35 AM
Hi, I'm in the UK and went to ask my doctor about Dysbiosis.

He had never heard of it, and looked it up on his National Health service computer and came up with nothing. Which made me feel rather silly lol

Anyway in the end he googled it, and said I could try eliminating certain foods as suggested but he strongly doubted it would have any effect.

Is Dysbiosis a naturopathic term or is it so new that UK doctors don't know anything about it yet?

phlika29
19th July 2009, 11:27 PM
If you check the article linked in the original post you will see that the wiki article is not referenced. It is important to not get too carried away when people post new potential cures. I have never heard of the term dysbiosis and certainly not in relation to rosacea. I am not saying that it doesnt exist or their is no connection but rather it needs further investigation.

maroon5
19th July 2009, 11:36 PM
I think another term for it is Candida but it appears whether it exists or not is up for debate between doctors and nauturopaths.

I did get a bit too excited about that I guess - just want to have hope I can beat this rosacea

phlika29
19th July 2009, 11:59 PM
I am sure you will find lots of things that will help your rosacea. My advice would be to just try one new thing at a time.