Would maintaining a good diet reduce the redness?

[Gauntlet00]

I mean with fruits and vegetebales, and water, and nothing else. Would it help me in my rosacea?

[phlika29]

I would not recommend trying to cut out too many food groups as your body is complex and needs a wide variety of foods to grow and maintain itself. There are foods that are known to cause reactions in some rosaceans and I would suggest that you have a look at cutting some of these out and seeing if this has a positive impact.

http://www.rosacea-research.org/wiki/index.php/Dietary_Influence

[Gauntlet00]

Okay, ill just cut out the ones that flare up. But would I see an improvement in any way if I eat only the ones that dont make me flare up?

[Melissa W]

If you are flaring from certain foods you will certainly see an improvement when you cut them out. The trick is knowing what flares you and what doesn't as everyone is different. And not everyone has food triggers.

[Gauntlet00]

Okay cool thanks guys=)

[nwc]

i actualy would be VERY interested in hearing your experiences if you do...are you talking about a raw vegan diet?

i was one for a short while years before i got rosacea and seb derm amongst other health issues and the experience and all around health and just everything was totaly amazing! i gave it up because i became more psychic and much more sensitive to others energies and was too much to handle while i was emotionaly healing from some things in childhood. and i'm back hooked on cooked foods and some meat... i want to go back to raw vegan eventualy.

i lived on raw fruits, veggies, nuts and grains. and i got my D from the sun and drew it's energy into me in the shade. B...there's plenty of resources in food and dirt.

there's olympic medalist that are raw vegan even while competeing... there's a lot of people who are and many that have been for over 10 years and are super healthy and way more healthier than ever before.

you can make a lot of really great dishes too... loads of recipies out there...some require using dehydrators..point it is not to heat/cook food past the suns temp on earth..110 approx.

google for raw vegan forums and recipies if your interested and david wolfe puts out some really great informative books and how to ease yourself into it ect.

i agree with the others to avoid trigger foods... but who knows... maybe after time you'd be able to eat it again if the raw food diet heals or does to some at leat degree.

if you have any questions i may be able to answer... feel free to ask. i'm not a professional or a doctor, however.

[Gauntlet00]

Yes im just planning on a diet of fruits and grains. And water

[phlika29]

Fruits have alot of sugar in them, whilst that is not so bad it might be better to increase the percentage of vegetables in the diet.

[nwc]

there are quite a few fruitarians out there. in fact one guy lived on red apples for a year for visions to write a book and for psychic awareness.
but fruitarians are generaly best while living in tropical areas.

i'm not you and those going on a raw diet.. some react differently than others.

it's very common to go through withdrawls from cooked foods and you may get headaches in the beginning. it isn't just humans.. cats and dogs go through it too if you switched them to raw.
but for humans... eating spinach can really help take the headaches away.

me, i couldn't eat much fruit at night if i wanted sleep... i was ready to run marathons!!! i only needed 3-4 hours of sleep and i felt fantastic all day... vs when i eat meat and cooked foods mostly... i need 8-20 hours of sleep. no lie.. i get up and often take 1-2 naps a day. vegetarian diet i needed only 6-8 hours.

i would get a lot of reading material and lurk forums ect and meet up with other raw foodist if you're a novice.

grains really aren't that healthy for us regardless if raw or not. they have some good stuff in it... but our systems don't dig it much. but it can be helpful to give a more filling feelng until you get more use to it.

water.... after so long being a raw foodist you won't really need much water to drink because it's in our foods. you'll notice not being so thirsty.

there's also tea, raw almond milk, raw vegan wine, juices....

[Driven]

...in fact one guy lived on red apples for a year for visions to write a book and for psychic awareness.

i.e., hallucinations due to malnutrition :) He could have had the same result in a lot less time via sleep deprivation, or even better, magic mushrooms. Both are far safer than slow starvation, which is a short road to heart failure. Anyone going the vegan route better make very sure they get enough calories, via seeds and nuts, to maintain some semblance of muscle mass (although it is no replacement for animal protein). When you start looking like a pro marathon runner, that's your first clue that heart problems may be around the corner. Once you've gone from "marathon runner" to "concentration camp victim", damage is already done. Oh and that lump in your groin is a hernia caused by loss of core muscle. On a positive note, there is a good possibility of chronic nerve entrapment pain from the hernia repair, which will distract you from your rosacea :)

But seriously, fruits are some of my worst triggers. Melon especially.

[nwc]

i.e., hallucinations due to malnutrition :) He could have had the same result in a lot less time via sleep deprivation, or even better, magic mushrooms. Both are far safer than slow starvation, which is a short road to heart failure. Anyone going the vegan route better make very sure they get enough calories, via seeds and nuts, to maintain some semblance of muscle mass (although it is no replacement for animal protein). When you start looking like a pro marathon runner, that's your first clue that heart problems may be around the corner. Once you've gone from "marathon runner" to "concentration camp victim", damage is already done. Oh and that lump in your groin is a hernia caused by loss of core muscle. On a positive note, there is a good possibility of chronic nerve entrapment pain from the hernia repair, which will distract you from your rosacea :)

But seriously, fruits are some of my worst triggers. Melon especially.

have you tried living off of one fruit or veggie for a long period of time?

i know i lived off of beans, cheese, bread/tortias and tomatos for years and rarely anything else and wasn't hullicinating ect.
some people live just on meat.

anyways... i've read quite a few testimonals and hearing from friends and friends of friends who only ate one specifc fruit for months and did very well and in some cases cured some problems.

i don't have my books any longer nor able to state the doctors names that are cooked food and meat eaters..they say after so long being a raw vegan that once if ever that you start eating only one fruit type that your body knows how to turn it into other vitamins that aren't known in the fruit already. our bodies are miracle workers.

and your sayng fruits are one of the biggest triggers especialy melons.... not with me!!!!! i can eat any fruit and lots of it and for the 5 years i've had rosacea not one problem!!

calories ect.... all i have to say.. is try being raw vegan yourself before you comment and degrade it. study about it... read lots of peoples opnions.
for near all who become raw vegan... you drop weight the first 6 months.. then you start to gain weight. and there are a lot of fattening fruits and nuts ect to eat if one is concerned. i even know 2 obese raw vegans.

being raw isn't for everyone because in my opnions are bodies got so corrubt over the years... but fruitarians are best to only be in tropical areas where its growing everywhere.... think of yourself as like a squirell.. it only eats what is grown in its area..unless people start growing what isn't native to area. living off of what is native in your area is the best way to go...you enhance with the surroundings.

[nwc]

btw.. what the hell does a hernia and marathon runner have to do with being raw vegan?

hernias in pacticular. in my 38 years and i've known thousands of vegetarians, vegans and raw vegans.... only times i've ever heard of someone mentioning they have or had a hernia are ONLY meat eaters!!! even on forums i've very activaly particpipated on.. not a mention.

core muscles and being raw vegan... you make no sence.

my stating olympic medalist and the such being raw vegan is simply stating they are succesful and healthy and no need for animal protein.

really... your post is so negative... i know your type... i've seen it often. but mind you..the thread starter doesn't seem to be asking for a vegetarian and vegan hater.

[Driven]

[QUOTE]have you tried living off of one fruit or veggie for a long period of time?

anyways... i've read quite a few testimonals and hearing from friends and friends of friends who only ate one specifc fruit for months and did very well and in some cases cured some problems.

i don't have my books any longer nor able to state the doctors names that are cooked food and meat eaters..they say after so long being a raw vegan that once if ever that you start eating only one fruit type that your body knows how to turn it into other vitamins that aren't known in the fruit already. our bodies are miracle workers.


No, I wouldn't do that because it isn't healthy. Please point me to a single legitimate study that shows your body can convert one fruit into everything you need. You won't find it because it's not true. Sorry to be so blunt, but I'm a scientist at heart and I hate misinformation.


i know i lived off of beans, cheese, bread/tortias and tomatos for years and rarely anything else and wasn't hullicinating ect. some people live just on meat.


Now THAT isn't a bad diet. As long as you get enough calories, you can survive just fine on that.


and your sayng fruits are one of the biggest triggers especialy melons.... not with me!!!!! i can eat any fruit and lots of it and for the 5 years i've had rosacea not one problem!!


Everyone's triggers are different. Mine happen to include fruit.


calories ect.... all i have to say.. is try being raw vegan yourself before you comment and degrade it. study about it... read lots of peoples opnions.
for near all who become raw vegan... you drop weight the first 6 months.. then you start to gain weight. and there are a lot of fattening fruits and nuts ect to eat if one is concerned. i even know 2 obese raw vegans.

being raw isn't for everyone because in my opnions are bodies got so corrubt over the years... but fruitarians are best to only be in tropical areas where its growing everywhere.... think of yourself as like a squirell.. it only eats what is grown in its area..unless people start growing what isn't native to area. living off of what is native in your area is the best way to go...you enhance with the surroundings.


When your body is functioning normally, you only gain weight if you're consuming excess calories, and you only lose weight if you're not consuming enough calories. It's pure physics.

I do have a similar theory to you, though. I think that our bodies evolved to more efficiently process the type of foods that are native to the area our ancestors spent the most time in. Maybe there were no melons in the British Isles 500 years ago (I have no idea), so my body doesn't tolerate them. Just a theory.


btw.. what the hell does a hernia and marathon runner have to do with being raw vegan?

hernias in pacticular. in my 38 years and i've known thousands of vegetarians, vegans and raw vegans.... only times i've ever heard of someone mentioning they have or had a hernia are ONLY meat eaters!!! even on forums i've very activaly particpipated on.. not a mention.

core muscles and being raw vegan... you make no sence.

my stating olympic medalist and the such being raw vegan is simply stating they are succesful and healthy and no need for animal protein.

really... your post is so negative... i know your type... i've seen it often. but mind you..the thread starter doesn't seem to be asking for a vegetarian and vegan hater.


I was just trying to provide a visual, and pro marathon runners can look emaciated. Hernias happen to people who are prone to them, but also to people who would not ordinarily get them, when their abdominal muscles weaken past a certain point. This happens when they get insufficient calories and lose core muscle (muscle they should have even if they've never lifted a weight). For example, hernias are common in people who have their stomach stapled, which basically forces them to slowly starve. Take a look at the face of someone who has had that surgery and rapidly lost a few hundred pounds. Notice the sharp angles in the jaw - that's because they've lost core muscle all over their body. It's also common in third world countries where starvation is common.

I wasn't trying to be negative, just realistic. I want to make sure people understand that starving themselves is not healthy. Eating only one type of fruit for an extended period of time is not healthy. Eating less than 1,500 calories/day is not healthy. Eating less than 1,000/day is asking for medical problems.

I don't hate vegans, far from it. I'm a former personal trainer, I know a great deal about nutrition, and I know that being vegan can be perfectly healthy IF you go about it the right way. The problem is, some people go into it with too much faith and not enough knowledge. When you become vegan, it's easy to not get enough calories and nutrients. My post was only to make sure that anyone interested in going that route understands the dangers and that they need to be very careful and do a lot of research.

[nwc]

driven,

well lets agree to disagree.

scientists and nutricianist amongst students are far more likely to learn the same things as the others and it's proven time and time again that each eventualy discover they were wrong in one fashion or another or just entirely. very seldom does any info stay the same and also each piece of info that is correct leads to other gateways... humans have not mastered our bodies and everyones body is different. and some people teach things others completely disagree with and vice versa.

also...this week wine will be good and chocolate..next week it won't. scientists in every category is always correcting themselves.

the doctors info is in the ...i think it's.. "natures first law". it may be at your library. but i've found this info elsewhere too by other doctors. i donated most of my books away since i took a plane to move.

and i totaly disagree with you about the diet i mainly lived on for years while vegetarian. i ate this way because most days i spent most hours of the 24 a day at work and commuting...i was lucky to sleep 3-8 hours a day. oh.. i ate a lot of french fries and fried veggie food from fast food places too.

but cheese is bad for everyone!!! now i think i'm lactose intolerant.
bread is super hard on the digestive system and it focuses too much time and wastes so much energy trying to rid it out of system and also fills you up.
mind you the tomatos, grains and herbs are cooked thefore detroying most of the vitamins in it....same with potatos ect and the amount of grease.

then i got a few years where i was able to eat healthy.

but i'm telling ya... in my experiances and many others... we all have the same thing to say about the improvements in health ect.
near all go through cooked food withdrawls..it's just temporary.... dogs and cats and all other animals go through it too.... they/we are natural raw eaters...cooked foods destroy us.
meat is totaly unnessisary for humans.
calories.... you make such a point for this for energy??? i felt on top of the world as a raw vegan. my body and aura was totaly gleeming!!!!!!!! i had so much energy i had to stop eating early in night so i could sleep..but i found i only needed 3 hours and was much more alert and everything else than i ever in my life had been before.

cooked food vegans ect... yes... you do need to be careful. most live on rice and soy products.. both although have some nutrician but overall are really bad for us.

anyways..i'm rambeling.

bottom line... i haven't lived on just one raw food item and i wouldn't unless i had to for survival or i felt it may heal something and i doubt i would do it longer than 1 month..3 tops. i do not encourage that for anyone... i have just simply heard it's been done and everything was fine and some have healed from certain health issues.

being raw.. you can soak beans and eat it.. but beans are generaly not good for your digestive system whether raw or not.

being raw as to the best of knowledge..you eat a lot in the beginning...after time you realise you don't need as much food and still are in great shape.... people have gone months without food after being raw for so long and managed.... causes being from being stuck in wilderness...vs a cooked food and meat eater wouldn't be able to survive as long as a raw vegan.

my phone keeps ringing... i think i said what i wanted.