What are the foods I should avoid while being in rosceadiet?

[Bonefish]

There are many rosaceadiets I think but could someone list the foods which are banned in almost every one? OR if there are more foods what you can eat then can't, then could someone list those foods which I can eat?

and IF there is some diet what peoples are always using, when talked about "rosaceadiet" then foods which I can or can't in that particular diet.

[newattitude]

hi bonefish. i am no expert but i think most people eliminate dairy. not everyone but most people. i personally do better lo carb like brady suggests.he is right on. cant be quite as strict as him but less is better for a lot of people .certainly no refined carbs, lots of green vegetables. lots of water.hope this helps...........lin

[moka]

hi bonefish,

I found eliminating dairy very helpful. I also avoid spicy foods, fried food, sugar (as much as possible since i do eat a lot of fruit), chocolate and snacks.
drinking a lot also improves the skin's appearance.
Lately i've been eating a lot of fruit, vegetables and whole foods like whole rice and quinoa and i hardly eat any processed food. this had caused my skin to dramatically improve. i don't flush as much and i don't have any pimples at all. even if i eat some chocolate or cake her and there it doesn't affect as it used to. (I guess the healthy diet balances it).
I tried reducing carbs for sometime, but i didn't find it very helpful (although many people in this forum did).
Another thing is avoiding tea and coffee which seem to trigger flushes for some people.
I personally avoid hot foods too since they make me flush.
Anyway, I hope you will find this useful.
good luck!

[redhotoz]

Ah, good question!

I watched a programme today about diets and was very interested to learn that there is a diet 'challenge' happening. That is, that the 'standard' pyramid of what foods to eat is being challenged.

I try not to look at what I shouldn't be eating...rather at what I should be eating. I've said enough about the diet I am trying on this Forum but I do believe there is merit in eating well.

Mmm...so who determines what is eating well? Personally, I don't believe you can go past an unprocessed diet. Well, think of eating fresh foods rather than what comes out of a can or jar etc.

Anyway, just thought I would add my 2 cents worth.

Jen

[Bonefish]

Ok. One question: Dairy = all the milk products?

And if it is, then are those banned badcause containing lots of bad fats and carbohydrates? How about quark, that is by far the only milk product I eat/drink. That contains:

100g:
9,8g protein
4,8g carbohydrates
0g fat

..and the there is 240g quark in that can.. (I eat 2-3 quarks in day) is it ok?

[redhotoz]

I don't know what quark is? The only dairy I eat is butter.

I do believe we should add more good fats into our diet (eg. coconut oil; olive oil; butter)...it makes us feel satiated (full) and then no need for snacking. Breakfast, lunch and dinner is all we need.

I do also agree with low carbs but you pick the carbs you eat. Choosing low carb vegetables and salads means that you eat a fair amount of them. So, a regular meal will be beef/pork/lamb/chicken/fish etc with low carb vegies or salad. Pretty simple meal really and lots of ways to prepare a yummy meal.

I also eat a lot of eggs, cos I have so many from my chooks but also because they contain the perfect ratio of good fat : protein : low carbs.

Honestly, everyone believes what they want to believe when it comes to so-called healthy eating. For me, well, from someone who basically ate nothing to eating a healthy diet...my own chooks...growing my own vegies...well...I obviously believe strongly in what I am trying. That is, I've gone the whole 9 yards, so to speak.

Oh, I think the one absolute link between all diets for Rosacea is no sugar.

Anyway, another 2 cents worth from me! :)

Jen

[Brady Barrows]

This is probably one of most controversial subjects rosaceans talk about. You can read the entire book online for free about this subject at this url >

http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=0595228003&page=fm1

There are at least 218 members of users of the Rosacea Diet at this url >

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-diet-users-support-group/

Hope this helps.

Brady

There are many rosaceadiets I think but could someone list the foods which are banned in almost every one? OR if there are more foods what you can eat then can't, then could someone list those foods which I can eat?

and IF there is some diet what peoples are always using, when talked about "rosaceadiet" then foods which I can or can't in that particular diet.

[Bonefish]

Brady, I read your book on page 40 (I must read tomorrow more, now sleep).

1. But is the basic idea for your diet to avoid carbohydrates? So I can eat protein and fat (even the "hard fattyacids") as much as I want, if I keep my carbohydratelevel in maximum 30g/day right?

2. I have a multivitaminproduct but I quitted taking it because I read somewhere that vitamin-b advances the creating of rosacea is that so?

[Brady Barrows]

The nutshell version of the Rosacea Diet is:

No more than 30 grams of carbohydrate a day for 30 days
Absolutely no sugar, sugar substitutes or alcohol (chapter on page 73)
Drink plenty of water (chapter on water page 83)

You can eat as much protein and fat as you want for thirty days. Read the chapter on Protein and Fat (page 44), Protein Synthesis and Gluconeogenesis (page 58), Fat Vs Sugar (page 65) and Vitamins and Supplements (page 80).

After the thirty days you can eat whatever your want and watch your rosacea return. You should notice marked improvement within 30 days, usually. However, some have taken longer to see noticeable improvement. Sugar is the fuel that burns rosacea. It is like how to put out a fire in the fire triangle (fuel, spark and oxygen) by reducing the fuel. Your metabolism will change from an insulin dominant to a glucagon dominant metabolism. That is the nutshell version of the Rosacea Diet.

As to the B Vitamins, I recommend a Multi B Vitamin Complex along with additional B3, B5, B6 and B12 (read the entire list I recommend beginning on page 80). Always take vitamins and supplements with your meal, never on an empty stomach. Drink plenty of water. You need to boost your immune system and taking vitamins and supplements, including B Vitamins is necessary. You should take Flush Free B3. Read the chapter. You will notice a marked improvement in your health by boosting your vitamins and supplements and your face will begin to heal.

I suggest you join the RDUSG and post questions to the 218 who are members for further advice. Everyone is a diet authority in the RDUSG and have modified the Rosacea Diet to fit their lifestyle after the 30 days.


Brady, I read your book on page 40 (I must read tomorrow more, now sleep).

1. But is the basic idea for your diet to avoid carbohydrates? So I can eat protein and fat (even the "hard fattyacids") as much as I want, if I keep my carbohydratelevel in maximum 30g/day right?

2. I have a multivitaminproduct but I quitted taking it because I read somewhere that vitamin-b advances the creating of rosacea is that so?

hey bonefish-
I'm not familiar with any specific rosacea diet, but I'll tell you what has really worked for me. I cut out bad fats (animal fats... butter, cream, mayonnaise, most dairy) and instead started cooking my food in vegetable oil. I cut out simple and processed carbohydrates like bread, rice, potatoes, sugar, and anything with high fructose corn syrup in it. I also limit my fruit intake to berries, bc they have the most nutritional value.

Basically, I'm eating foods that are GOOD for my body! :)

It sounds hard but it's not... in the morning I'll have some whole grain oatmeal with a packet of splenda sprinkled on it, for lunch I'll have a turkey burger without the bun and some mixed vegetables, and for dinner, chicken or salmon or shrimp with veggies. For dessert, sugar free jello or a few frozen berries. For a snack, a can of tuna or handful of pistachios or a Kashi TLC bar.

I also make sure to do 30 minutes of cardio every day (or almost).

My skin hasn't looked this good in... well, a very long time. Neither has my body, hehe.

[Just Visiting!]

Hi All!
I found this forum this afternoon and have been very interested to read about everyone's experiences re the benefits of removing refined foods/sugars/carbs etc. from their diets.
I was diagnosed with the dreaded rosacea about 3 years ago, I'd never heard of it before. I tried tetrex which worked for a while. rosex (which does nothing) and various moisturisers etc. It was a continuing battle as I was working outdoors doing field work for my PhD and was continually exposed to sun, wind etc and no amount of wearing sunscreen and light scarves around my face etc seemed to help...I was also undertaking a massive "back yard blitz" at home...so more exposure (but great exercise)! It was about that time that I came across the Atkin's Diet Revolution (and I realise Atkins is a dirty word in many circles, I'd always pooh-poohed it as another fad as well)...however, there were a lot of concepts in the book that rang true for other health issues I was experiencing-I was sure I was developing diabetes and was overweight. I initially started the diet to support a friend who was trying it out and stuck to it like glue for about 3 months...not only did I lose around 25kg but my hypoglycemia symptoms ceased AND the rosacea magically cleared up. (Later on I kept the concepts of the diet well in mind, but relaxed it somewhat). At the time I thought it was all to do with sugar-but after reading the many postings regarding pH balance its possible that it was also helping with this as well.
But now my rosacea is back-hence the reason for surfing the net to see what's new, and I'm pretty sure it's because I've let myself slip on the diet front. I have been stuck in front of computer for months writing up my PhD and have been working up to 15 hrs a day with only the odd day off (I have a "real $$" job to keep up with as well-so I guess stress is probably a factor too). Although I didn't find the diet that difficult to stick with, it can mean that food isn't quite as convenient (and doesn't go as far) when you cut out bread, rice and pasta. I was a bit better organised pre-PhD and always had a few boiled eggs, roasted chicken legs, a salad made up in the fridge-easy stuff to grab when you're in a hurry-but my best efforts at being organised have unravelled and I've fallen into the habit of throwing sandwiches together (NOT on white bread tho') and padding things out with rice etc so I don't have to cook as often. Although I still eat fairly healthily I firmly believe that being loose with my diet has had its consequences on the rosacea front-who can write a PhD without chocolate I ask! I've also put about 8kg back on but I think that's more to due with being a computer drone! Anyway...all of the diet discussion has given me renewed motivation to get eating healthily again...and in a week or two the PhD will be a blessed memory. I'll be making a mammoth effort to get the diet back on track!

Also, my doctor has suggested I try Finacea (if anyone has had any success with this I'd be interested) so I'll use it in conjunction with good eating and will hopefully whip the rosacea into submision once again!


Here are a few every day things to keep in mind (if you're interested) that I find help to keep the sugars/carbs down...(I'm certainly not going to go on a pro-Atkins rave, but the approach I (ideally) take when it comes to eating decently is based on what appear to me to be sensible and logical concepts...As a scientist, I would hope that I'm able to approach such things with a reasonably critical mind. However, I'm certainly no dietician or expert and I could be wrong, but its worked for me! It's all very basic, and you've probably heard it all before, but here goes anyway!


Sugar-if you must sweeten anything, I've found Splenda to be great-its made from real sugar, does not utilise any of the nasty artificial sweeteners and also doesn't taste like one.

The veges that are high in carbs are commonly those that plants use as storage structures and therefore have a high starch/carb content
e.g. potatoes are stems modified for storage and carrots are roots that store food thus I try to keep these to a minimum. I often use pumpkin as a substitute for potato (and rice). If you're a curry lover it tastes awesome on a bed of mashed pumpkin, especially lamb and anything with cumin/coriander in it. Mashed cauliflower also makes an interesting side or base for a tuna bake or the like! You just about can't go wrong with green-and I certainly couldn't live without my green veges! broccoli, spinach/silverbeet, lettuce, cucumber, asian bok choys etc etc are preferable to tomato, corn or carrot for instance in terms of sugar/carb content-and onions/leeks are also quite high in natural sugar...Mushies are also a staple! I tend to reduce fruits such as apple/citrus/banana and lean towards fruits like berries (lower in carbs/natural sugar than the former).

Be aware that sauces, dressings, mayo, marinades etc have often got quite a lot of added sugar as do many tinned items such as tomatoes...I spent a long time reading labels at the supermarket and found some good compromises...better still, if you've got the time...make your own!

Eggs have apparently been given the all clear on the cholesterol front these days, so I don't feel so guilty about eating a few...they're also very high in many vits and mins and you can make quiches/fritattas and the like to have cold in the fridge...easy snack or packed lunch.

I love my meat and eat some meat most days (if not I have eggs for protein)-but I keep the portions reasonable...and also try to keep bacon and deli meat products to a minimum because of the preservatives...although I'm not too finicky about fat, I do tend to cut off the majority of it. I also only use olive oil (or sesame occasionally) and use butter in preference to margarine.

Cheese/yoghurt -some types contain substantially more sugar than others-check the lables

Don't let white bread pass your lips!-go for the grainy/wholemeal types-soy and linseed-Yum! They fill you up for longer and provide fibre.

To encourage myself to drink plently, I always have water cooling in the fridge with either some fresh lemon juice squeezed in or a VERY small amount of lemon cordial (no added sugar type of course!)-the water in my area isn't the best and it helps to cover up the taste-I'd love to invest in a water filter, but am yet to get around to it!...and if you like a beer now and again, there are actually low carb ones on the market now...

Overall I found that when I had a protein breakfast, kept the carbs until later in the day (mainly fruit and veg and some cereals), drank heaps of water and all but ceased my intake of processed foods and refined sugar I;

1) didn't feel hungry throught the day
2) didn't have sugar/insulin swings
3) felt vastly more energetic and alert
4) lost weight (lots!) in combo with sensible exercise AND
5) SENT MY ROSACEA PACKING!!!

Well that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Now I must stop raving on and procrastinating and get on with this wretched thesis!
Best of luck to all out there struggling with Rosacea-although my case is not as severe as some I wouldn't wish it on anyone, and it's nice to know I'm not alone!

[Brady Barrows]

guest, whoever you are, the Atkins Diet will definitely work to help control anyone's rosacea as you have pointed out. You are quite knowledgeable on the subject and have many suggestions. There is a group dedicated to this subject and can be found here >

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-diet-users-support-group/

If you join mention this conversation and I will approve your membership.


Hi All!
I found this forum this afternoon and have been very interested to read about everyone's experiences re the benefits of removing refined foods/sugars/carbs etc. from their diets.
I was diagnosed with the dreaded rosacea about 3 years ago, I'd never heard of it before. I tried tetrex which worked for a while. rosex (which does nothing) and various moisturisers etc. It was a continuing battle as I was working outdoors doing field work for my PhD and was continually exposed to sun, wind etc and no amount of wearing sunscreen and light scarves around my face etc seemed to help...I was also undertaking a massive "back yard blitz" at home...so more exposure (but great exercise)! It was about that time that I came across the Atkin's Diet Revolution (and I realise Atkins is a dirty word in many circles, I'd always pooh-poohed it as another fad as well)...however, there were a lot of concepts in the book that rang true for other health issues I was experiencing-I was sure I was developing diabetes and was overweight. I initially started the diet to support a friend who was trying it out and stuck to it like glue for about 3 months...not only did I lose around 25kg but my hypoglycemia symptoms ceased AND the rosacea magically cleared up. (Later on I kept the concepts of the diet well in mind, but relaxed it somewhat). At the time I thought it was all to do with sugar-but after reading the many postings regarding pH balance its possible that it was also helping with this as well.
But now my rosacea is back-hence the reason for surfing the net to see what's new, and I'm pretty sure it's because I've let myself slip on the diet front. I have been stuck in front of computer for months writing up my PhD and have been working up to 15 hrs a day with only the odd day off (I have a "real $$" job to keep up with as well-so I guess stress is probably a factor too). Although I didn't find the diet that difficult to stick with, it can mean that food isn't quite as convenient (and doesn't go as far) when you cut out bread, rice and pasta. I was a bit better organised pre-PhD and always had a few boiled eggs, roasted chicken legs, a salad made up in the fridge-easy stuff to grab when you're in a hurry-but my best efforts at being organised have unravelled and I've fallen into the habit of throwing sandwiches together (NOT on white bread tho') and padding things out with rice etc so I don't have to cook as often. Although I still eat fairly healthily I firmly believe that being loose with my diet has had its consequences on the rosacea front-who can write a PhD without chocolate I ask! I've also put about 8kg back on but I think that's more to due with being a computer drone! Anyway...all of the diet discussion has given me renewed motivation to get eating healthily again...and in a week or two the PhD will be a blessed memory. I'll be making a mammoth effort to get the diet back on track!

Also, my doctor has suggested I try Finacea (if anyone has had any success with this I'd be interested) so I'll use it in conjunction with good eating and will hopefully whip the rosacea into submision once again!


Here are a few every day things to keep in mind (if you're interested) that I find help to keep the sugars/carbs down...(I'm certainly not going to go on a pro-Atkins rave, but the approach I (ideally) take when it comes to eating decently is based on what appear to me to be sensible and logical concepts...As a scientist, I would hope that I'm able to approach such things with a reasonably critical mind. However, I'm certainly no dietician or expert and I could be wrong, but its worked for me! It's all very basic, and you've probably heard it all before, but here goes anyway!


Sugar-if you must sweeten anything, I've found Splenda to be great-its made from real sugar, does not utilise any of the nasty artificial sweeteners and also doesn't taste like one.

The veges that are high in carbs are commonly those that plants use as storage structures and therefore have a high starch/carb content
e.g. potatoes are stems modified for storage and carrots are roots that store food thus I try to keep these to a minimum. I often use pumpkin as a substitute for potato (and rice). If you're a curry lover it tastes awesome on a bed of mashed pumpkin, especially lamb and anything with cumin/coriander in it. Mashed cauliflower also makes an interesting side or base for a tuna bake or the like! You just about can't go wrong with green-and I certainly couldn't live without my green veges! broccoli, spinach/silverbeet, lettuce, cucumber, asian bok choys etc etc are preferable to tomato, corn or carrot for instance in terms of sugar/carb content-and onions/leeks are also quite high in natural sugar...Mushies are also a staple! I tend to reduce fruits such as apple/citrus/banana and lean towards fruits like berries (lower in carbs/natural sugar than the former).

Be aware that sauces, dressings, mayo, marinades etc have often got quite a lot of added sugar as do many tinned items such as tomatoes...I spent a long time reading labels at the supermarket and found some good compromises...better still, if you've got the time...make your own!

Eggs have apparently been given the all clear on the cholesterol front these days, so I don't feel so guilty about eating a few...they're also very high in many vits and mins and you can make quiches/fritattas and the like to have cold in the fridge...easy snack or packed lunch.

I love my meat and eat some meat most days (if not I have eggs for protein)-but I keep the portions reasonable...and also try to keep bacon and deli meat products to a minimum because of the preservatives...although I'm not too finicky about fat, I do tend to cut off the majority of it. I also only use olive oil (or sesame occasionally) and use butter in preference to margarine.

Cheese/yoghurt -some types contain substantially more sugar than others-check the lables

Don't let white bread pass your lips!-go for the grainy/wholemeal types-soy and linseed-Yum! They fill you up for longer and provide fibre.

To encourage myself to drink plently, I always have water cooling in the fridge with either some fresh lemon juice squeezed in or a VERY small amount of lemon cordial (no added sugar type of course!)-the water in my area isn't the best and it helps to cover up the taste-I'd love to invest in a water filter, but am yet to get around to it!...and if you like a beer now and again, there are actually low carb ones on the market now...

Overall I found that when I had a protein breakfast, kept the carbs until later in the day (mainly fruit and veg and some cereals), drank heaps of water and all but ceased my intake of processed foods and refined sugar I;

1) didn't feel hungry throught the day
2) didn't have sugar/insulin swings
3) felt vastly more energetic and alert
4) lost weight (lots!) in combo with sensible exercise AND
5) SENT MY ROSACEA PACKING!!!

Well that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Now I must stop raving on and procrastinating and get on with this wretched thesis!
Best of luck to all out there struggling with Rosacea-although my case is not as severe as some I wouldn't wish it on anyone, and it's nice to know I'm not alone!

[domo2727]

how do you make your mashed cauliflower

[phlika29]

I imagine that you literally cook it as normal and then mash it. Or maybe I'm missing something :wink:

[milton]

Many of you guys are lucky, I can't eat anything but Chicken, Rice, Potatoes and Corn. I tried apples a couple of days ago. Red. I don't get red right after though, it usually takes about 24 hours to affect me. Weird huh?

[claudia]

I've found it's ok to eat just about anything as long as it's unrefined, natural and organic if possible.

Good --- organic vegetables, whole fruits, organic chicken, wild fish, organic brown eggs, unsweetened yogurt, honey, good oils (olive, etc.), nuts, sprouted grain bread (has no ground flour), etc.

Bad --- sugar, milk, alcoholic drinks, refined flour products, red meat (synthetic hormones), fruit juices (too concentrated)

[Simone]

Mashed cauli? I usually only cook my veg until they're just starting to soften, so they're still a bit crispy but for mashing cauli you may like to steam it a bit longer (but it obviously won't be as smooth and creamy as mashed potato). You might also like to add a little butter and/or experiment with seasoning (try a sprinkle of good quality curry powder for instance) and fresh parsley is nice too, and if you're feeling really naughty :wink: and can handle dairy, you could add some cream, grated cheese or yoghurt)...

..also, thank you for your comments Brady...I will have a look at joining!

Cheers!