Is this good diet for rosacea?

[Bonefish]

If I would only eat lot of these: tunafish, fruits and vegetables and oliveoil. Also what about accutane same time while doing this diet?

I also would take omega-3 fattyacids and proteinpowder (for my gymhobby).

So what do you think, would this work? I have the beginning state on phymatous nose.

[phlika29]

it is my understanding that some people have reaction to the histmine in tuna fish but I don't think I have a problem with it. The other thing to remember with tuna fish is that once it has been canned it is no longer classed as an oily fish as the canning process has destroyed the natural oil.

From an overall health point of view if this is all you are eating then you need to be careful as you are cutting out whole groups of foods such as carbohydrates. Each food group including fat plays a vital role in maintaining a healthy body (not just your skin) and if you limit yourself too much you could end up with other diet realted problems.

I personally eat a healthy diet with complex carbohyrates, healthy fats (such as coconut oil), lots of fruit and veg. The only things I avoid as my known triggers and prepared foods or sugary foods.

I'm not sure if you have seen the following link but its really useful:

http://rosacea-research.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

If you think that you would benefit from accutane then you should discuss it with your derm. Make sure if you give it ago you only have a very low dose (5-10mg/per day).

Best wishes

Sarah

[Bonefish]

The tuna is in fish yes (no fat). I readed a little bit about histamines. Is it a problem for me because I dont itch anywhere (not even my nose)?

edit: how about oatsporridge then (in skimmend milk) or rye bread (I know those contain lot of good carbohydrates and no sugar) but are they good thinking about rosacea?

[phlika29]

I have porridge oats with soya milk and honey (no dairy for me because of my seb derm).

Just because you don't have an immediate histamine reaction doens't mean it isn't making you flush abit later on in the day/next day. Perhaps you could keep a food diary and eliminate things one at a time and then reintroduce things one at a time. For me this was too complicated and so I decided that I would just follow a healthy diet.

[Bonefish]

whoops I ment to say that tuna is in water. I just think that I don't get much reaction of foods anyway but I'll see if tuna does something..

This is why I just cut off so many foods, that I don't have to keep any kind of diary because that is just something I hate. Too slow and difficult.. Easier to just cut lot of foods (althought I know I get all the vitamins, minerals, fats.......) So what would be the best food to compromise tuna? Almost all the milkproducts contain also bad fats..

-edit- then how about kofeintablets (contains ONLY kofein). Those aren't exactly good but when I speaked for drummond, he said those aren't good.

[phlika29]

What do you mean bad fats? From a health point of view the only 'bad fats' are the trans fats found in manufactured foods as they are not found in nature.

I don't eat dairy because dairy makes my seb derm flair. I make a concerted effort to replace the calcium lost from this by eating other foods that contains it.

I don't think you should cut out any more foods as you seem to have resrticted yourself enough already. Are you aware of any foods that directly effect your skin?

I personally believe that a varied diet is essential in maintaing adequete supllies of vitamins and minerals. I try to eat the reccoemned portions of carbs etc (although not dairy) every day and my skin has not suffered.

Sarah

[Bonefish]

I mean the content or meet (not sure about the word, had to use translator) fats. not the good fats what foods like fish or oliveoil contain.

I ment I wouldn't like to cut foods one by one, foods im eating now I couldn't even think about cutting off!

Sarah, you said you skin hasen't suffered, but has it gone any better? That is what im trying in this diet. To get rid of this life wruining disease :(

[phlika29]

Sorry I've got abit confused with this. My fault I'm sure.

All I can say is that my skin has improved alot with my better diet. I guess you will just have to see how your skin goes if you just eat the foods you suggest. By eating better over the last year I have also lost about a stone in weight :lol:

Sarah

[phlika29]

Just lookingat some other websites and found this on roaccutane:

http://rosacea.ii.net/news/2006/09/treating-rhinophyma-with-accutane.html

Thought it may be of some help.

[Bonefish]

wow that study made me hopeful again :)
So is 10mg/day good for now on (been taking that dose)
and this diet (I also added rye bread and dark rice to get my stomach full) and maybe metrogel or elidelcream?

[phlika29]

Yes there is always hope. If 10mg is okay for your skin then I guess you should carry on with this dose. I take it that you have been prescribed this by your derm?

I would try out your diet and see how your skin likes it. I think metrogel will be okay (I thought that elidel was more for seb derm).

Have you done a search on accutane on this forum?

[Bonefish]

Yes there is always hope. If 10mg is okay for your skin then I guess you should carry on with this dose. I take it that you have been prescribed this by your derm?

I would try out your diet and see how your skin likes it. I think metrogel will be okay (I thought that elidel was more for seb derm).

Have you done a search on accutane on this forum?
Yes I've prescribed from my derm. I think my skin doesn't react much of a nothing no matter what dose I take (only my lips get dryer and so on), but I'll carry on that 10mg dose. Metrogel has helped me yes, but doctor Steven Johnson (that rosacea laserspecealist) said that Elidelcream could help me for swelling when I sent my pictures to him.

I added now also that rye bread, dark rice, and porridge oats in skimmed milk. Is skimmed milk ok for rosaceadiet?

[redhotoz]

Hi Bonefish

When it comes to diet for Rosacea, I find it easier to think of the foods that I CAN eat, rather than what I can't. Without going into the low-down of Bee's diet, it is basically a non-processed foods diet. This is why I decided to grow my own vegetables and salads as well as fresh chook eggs from my chooks. I love it! :D

As far as dairy, the only dairy I eat is butter. Skim milk is processed. 'no more red cheeks!' (Joanne) wrote about the difference with drinking REAL milk. Perhaps you could try this, or check out the thread, if you haven't already read through it:

http://forum.rosaceagroup.org/viewtopic.php?t=1830

Jen

[Gemini]

I read a post about tuna fish, and everything that I read in the past said no to tuna fish. I have had rosacea for the last three years and I experimented a lot. I noticed that if I eat a lot of carbs, I breakout in a flush the next day. I eat carbs in the morning (all whole grains), for lunch I eat protein and vegetables (or just vegetables), for dinner I again eat protein and vegetables. Basically, my diet consists of mostly protein and vegetables. If I do eat carbs (I believe you need carbs), I eat nothing but whole grains. The key to this is to limit your carbs. Oh and if you eat carbs with a meal, make sure you eat a good portion of your protein first as this will help in digestion. I take b-vitamins (minus the niacin), fish oil, calcium, grape seed extract, and I take acidophalus - (again to aid in digestion) do what ever you can to help in digestion as this plays a huge part in maintaining flareups. Chew your food well, and eat a variety of foods to keep your immune system in check. The main part of eating is to always eat healthy, and eat a variety of food. Don't be afraid to try new things even if you heard that it may cause a flare. Just remember to: drink a lot of water, don't eat a lot of sugar of any kind, keep carbs to a minimum, and get all the vitamins you can with the food that you eat. The healthier you eat, you will benefit from it in the long run. It takes time, but I am seeing results. You need to strengthen your body before it can fight off any skin problems.

Good luck. I will post more when I learn more about my rosacea.

P.S. Make sure you treat yourself once in a while. Remember life is good.

[claudia]

Hi Bonefish

Here's what works for me:

"Eat like a caveman"...this describes my approach to foods and eating. In other words eat as natural, as unprocessed and as much like people did for thousands of years before civilization took off. I think rosacea skin is ultra-sensitive to the "newer" ways of eating!

Carbs --- organic whole. Not refined or ground. Minimal processing seems to be ok...like organic sliced oats or oatmeal. Early man may have had some ground flour products but they were probably very course and made without yeast...ie whole grain flat breads cooked on hot stones.

Proteins --- organic, free range or hunted...ie free range organic chicken or ocean fish, etc. from the health food store. ALL regular store bought meat, poultry and fish is farm raised with antibiotics and/or inhumane living conditions that raise stress hormones in the animals (think what that does to YOUR skin!). Whole organic raw nuts such as almonds and walnuts are excellent protein foods!

Fruits and Vegetables --- fresh, whole and organic. Eat raw or lightly roast in the oven or steam them or saute in a little olive oil. Fresh, natural whole organic produce has enzymes that help reduce inflammation. Canned and processed vegetables in convenience foods are basically dead foods that also usually have a lot of salt or sugars added...things that cause inflammation.

Avoid "modern" foods such as condiments (loaded with salt and sugar), sugar, caffinated drinks, and alcohol. All of these foods cause inflammation throughout the whole body.

Avoid dairy except for organic unsweetened yogurt. Most dairy products today are loaded with iodine that is part of the processing process and iodine is known to cause inflammation and acne. Organic unsweetened yogurt doesn't have iodine and helps improve good bacteria in the digestive system which in turn helps reduce inflammation. Early man did not drink milk but ate cultured dairy products such as yogurt and cheese.

And every once in a great while, cheat...have something modern...my weakness is fresh baked artisan french bread. I pay the price later but it sure is wonderful going down :wink:

CV