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[cap396]

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Here's another story from another newbie, along with a picture and some questions:

4 months ago (in July) I noticed a few bumps form on my face. I was traveling in Africa at the time and just assumed that they were bug bites. When I came home in August, more bumps started appearing, so this made me realize that these probably were not bug bites. About two weeks ago I went to a dermatologist. He first thought I had mulluscum, but he wanted to do a biopsy and send a skin sample into the lab. When the results came back, the dermatologist called me and told me that I have rosecea. He prescribed doxycycline, but it's only been a week and it's too early to tell if it's having any affect at this point. I'll be going back to the dermatologist in about six weeks.

I've read many of the posts on this forum and appreciate everyone's contributions. But I still have a couple of questions.

Question 1: First of all, now that you've seen my picture, has anybody had a similar form of Rosacea to what you see in my picture? Notice that I have the bumps and although the bumps themselves are red, in general I don't think I have a lot red flushing (but am I wrong about that?). I also feel only a very slight burning sensation at the top of my nose, but it's not very noticeable. In any case, if your form of rosacea appears similar to what you see in my picture, could you give me some advice on treatments that have worked for you? Do you know what your triggers are?

Question 2: The dermatologist said that the results of the biopsy led him to believe that I have rosacea instead of mulluscum. I did a search on this forum for "biopsy" and only found one post. This post stated that a biopsy generally cannot be used to diagnose rosacea. After looking at my picture, does anybody think that there is a possibility that I have something else other than rosacea?

Thanks in advance for your replies. I'm sure I'll have more questions later.

[phlika29]

Hello and welcome to the group. I'm afraid that my experience of rosacea is different to your's so can't offer many suggestions but I thought that I would say hello anyway.

You say it came on suddenly when you were in Africa, I wonder why then? All I can suggest is that if the bumps are itchy and red then you may want to try an antihistamine tablet (like clarityn) as I always find this helps calm my red bumps.

Anyway I hope you find some help here.

Sarah

[clsykes00]

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/cap396/10-30-06-3.jpg

Here's another story from another newbie, along with a picture and some questions:

4 months ago (in July) I noticed a few bumps form on my face. I was traveling in Africa at the time and just assumed that they were bug bites. When I came home in August, more bumps started appearing, so this made me realize that these probably were not bug bites. About two weeks ago I went to a dermatologist. He first thought I had mulluscum, but he wanted to do a biopsy and send a skin sample into the lab. When the results came back, the dermatologist called me and told me that I have rosecea. He prescribed doxycycline, but it's only been a week and it's too early to tell if it's having any affect at this point. I'll be going back to the dermatologist in about six weeks.

I've read many of the posts on this forum and appreciate everyone's contributions. But I still have a couple of questions.

Question 1: First of all, now that you've seen my picture, has anybody had a similar form of Rosacea to what you see in my picture? Notice that I have the bumps and although the bumps themselves are red, in general I don't think I have a lot red flushing (but am I wrong about that?). I also feel only a very slight burning sensation at the top of my nose, but it's not very noticeable. In any case, if your form of rosacea appears similar to what you see in my picture, could you give me some advice on treatments that have worked for you? Do you know what your triggers are?

Question 2: The dermatologist said that the results of the biopsy led him to believe that I have rosacea instead of mulluscum. I did a search on this forum for "biopsy" and only found one post. This post stated that a biopsy generally cannot be used to diagnose rosacea. After looking at my picture, does anybody think that there is a possibility that I have something else other than rosacea?

Thanks in advance for your replies. I'm sure I'll have more questions later.

Do you flush or ever have a red tone? I cannot detect any redness from your picture.

[cap396]

Thanks for your replies. No, I don't flush a lot (at least I don't think I do - only if I'm in a situation when I get really embarrassed about something, which doesn't happen too often). Although I do have a little redness in my face, I don't think it's too pronounced. It's the p&p that I'm dealing with the most.

This leads me to another question... If I have p&p but not a lot redness, could that mean that I actually do not have rosacea, but maybe I have something else? Is is possible to have p&p from rosacea but not redness?

I appreciate any comments or advice that anybody could give me. Thank you.

[phlika29]

Well I thought that you could get just the bumps but in practice most people seem to have accompaning redness and/or flushing.

I can only reiterate my advice of trying an antihistamine, sorry can't be much more help.

[tkr]

Hi there, This is only my opinion here, but to me this does not look like rosacea, if I were you I would seek a second opinion, even a third. Also you should check if maybe this is caused by mites as well, as they can give you these bumps too(just an observation).
Which is even more odd to me is the fact that u say since you have come back from africa, I would seriously seek another derm. I dont see any redness, only bumps? it is questionable without a doubt, especially if you are not reacted like a true rosacea does. This is simply my own opinion, hopefully more answers will come your way. good luck tamara

[polster]

it doesnt look like rosacea or seb derm at all. It looks like you have some sort of infection of the skin. It looks like acne but in my opinion its not acne?

I would if I were you get another dermtatologist opinion and alos give as much info as you can when you go see the doctor. Also make sure to wash your hands and face thoroughly. Avoid touching/pocking at your face as it will make the condition worse.

[cap396]

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Here's another photo. Sorry if this makes the page load slowly. I appreciated everyone's help and advice.

[Barbara]

I'm not sure, but for me it also doesn't look like rosacea. And because it appeared the first time when you where in Africa I would strongly recommend to go to another doctor for a second opinion. I would tell that I doubt it is rosacea and would concretely ask if it could be something caused by your visit in Africa.

[claudia]

Hi Cap and welcome!

I just read the other replies and probably most rosaceans who have lots of red flushing & blushing would say you don't have rosacea BUT I think you do!

There are some (...maybe many?) of us rosaceans who have a particular subtype of rosacea that looks EXACTLY like yours...me included. It sucks doesn't it?!!! When my rosacea flares up I look just like you...lots of red inflammed bumps and areas of redness radiating out from those bumps. I don't blush or flush that badly over my whole skin...just around the bumpy areas. The only time I get red flushes elsewhere is when I've used acne products --- ach what a mess!

The type of rosacea you have presents itself like inflammed acne...hence the misdiagnosis of acne often happens. Fortunately, your derm didn't do that or right now you'd be trying to use harsh acne treatments and inflaming your lesions more...ending up with quite a nice red flare-up over more of your skin. If you kept on trying to treat it like acne you'd finally end up with all the flushing that most rosaceans have.

But you are treating it right by using an oral antibiotic like doxy. Doxy takes awhile to kick in...sometimes as long as a month. If that doesn't work you may want to try Bactrim. My rosacea is JUST LIKE YOURS!!! Minocycline and doxycycline didn't work for me (...actually they did work years ago but I think I built up a tolerance to them...). Bactrim, a sulfa derivative works great for me and I'm now down to using one pill 3x/wk.

Your rosacea may have been triggered by getting older, something wierd introduced into your system in Africa (...spicy foods? bacteria? molds? mites?...), or who knows. Many of us had acne in our teens, others didn't. Some had rosacea come on after using harsh facial products, others didn't. Rosacea seems to come on in alot of varied ways and reasons. It's frustrating to figure it out.

All you can do is figure out what makes sense for you.

Right now you need to keep a journal. Write down what treatments you're doing, what you eat each day, stressors, etc. And then write down how your skin is responding. This will help you sort things out.

Since you have inflammatory lesions you'll want to be extremely gentle with your skin. Use only products for SENSITIVE skin. I use Olay foaming cleanser for sensitive skin and during the day I use a lotion called Olay Sensitive skin lotion SPF 15 (my husband likes it too).

You may also want to try Metrogel 1% to help the skin calm down.

Here's my regime:

Morning - wash with Olay cleanser & put on Olay lotion. Take a Bactrim pill. I also take Spironolactone to help lower androgens (...androgens cause cystic acne which my derm says is also happening for me) but you can't take spiro cause you're a guy.

Evening - wash with Olay cleanser & put on Metrogel 1%.

Also try to eat mostly fresh organic foods AND avoid caffeine, sugary foods, alcohol, and spicy foods. Some people see a big difference doing this.

Good luck. Those of us with this subtype of rosacea need to stick together and educate others about it. There's quite alot of discussion about the more common types and less about our type but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist :shock:

CV

[claudia]

Oh I forgot to mention that most of us have to continue doing treatments for the longterm...if not forever. That's why dosages of antibiotics are slowly lowered to almost nothing over time but still used to keep inflammation down. The biggest mistake to make, especially with our subtype, is to think we're "cured" when the lesions go away and then stop treatment. BIG MISTAKE. It comes back with a vengance...believe me...it's a curse! Anyway...word of wisdom...keep up the treatments and be happy that there's a way to control this!

[prometheus]

Those are papules, not pimples and it looks like rosacea to me. I would get plexion face wash and use it once or twice a week. And I know some people don't like it, but Finacea knocks those right out for me, usually within 2-3 days. And don't ever use soap when you shower, use Dove moisturizer bars or something similar.

And if a bad flare up like that if it persists. Ask your derm to give you a 2 week dose of Augmentin.

[IowaDavid]

Those are papules, not pimples and it looks like rosacea to me. I would get plexion face wash and use it once or twice a week. And I know some people don't like it, but Finacea knocks those right out for me, usually within 2-3 days. And don't ever use soap when you shower, use Dove moisturizer bars or something similar.

And if a bad flare up like that if it persists. Ask your derm to give you a 2 week dose of Augmentin.

I have a different subtype of rosacea (diffuse redness, flushing, not much acneform problems, and I have ocular involvement) but, yeah, I'd have to agree those look like rosacea papules/pustules.

It's really difficult to pin down sometimes given how many faces this disease presents.

I'd go with gentle skincare products (not an easy definition, given how variable this disease is), try a strong antibiotic (again, the level that may be necessary is different for everyone), possibly Noritate (as it's marketed to contain acne lesions rather than generalized redness and flushing), and maybe look into Evening Primrose Oil supplementation and safe, molecularly-distilled Omega-3 supplementation.

Just hazarding a guess. Papulopustular rosacea, without diffuse redness and flushing, tends to be what the derms and pharmaceutical companies try to treat.

It's odd that you noticed symptoms so suddenly--or maybe they became prevalent enough to warrant your attention over a few weeks/months?

Keep in mind, there is a range in the flushing/blushing dermo/vascular/neurological disorders (check the ESFB board). Not all advice (specifically including mine) may be of help to you.

You've got a wealth of knowledge and experience from posters on this board, though. Hopefully you can pin down your subtype or disorder and treat it before it gets out of control.

:D

[Tioh2001]

Cap396,

It looks like demodex to me. Demodex is a skin mite which lives in the follicles and sebaceous glands and when the population gets beyond what the immune system can handle, you get blemishes, just like yours. Unfortunately, doctors are uneducated in this condition and usually diagnose the condition as rosacea.

Check out 2 things:

A thread by Simon (hencloud1): http://forum.rosaceagroup.org/viewtopic.php?t=3669 After treating himself for demodex for a couple of months he was mostly clear.

And check out this site: www.demodexsolutions.com. I can personally vouch for the AR soap and the ZhongZhou ointment (which is also what Simon used).

You have a fairly mild case, of short duration. You should be able to get clear very quickly.

Good luck.

Heather

[Barbara]

I just found this very interesting page about different skin diseases all with pictures. If you are not sure what you have you can also check out the differential diagnoses. Maybe this is a little bit of help.

http://dermis.multimedica.de/dermisroot/en/30526/diagnose.htm

[redhotoz]

Hi Cap396

Sadly, I see Rosacea in your pics too. I wish I could say otherwise. I don't know what "Mulluscum" is. I'm too tired to Google it right now.

I agree with what Heather has suggested with the ZZ ointment. I would give that a go, if I were you. I have very few p&p's now since using the ZZ ointment. I'm really glad I finally took the plunge to try it.

Rosacea presents in many forms but given the right controls, we can at least slow down progression until the cause(s) and a cure is found.

You know, it's really nice to see so many members posting here with helpful suggestions for you. This is what a support group is all about. Ahhh, just being a tad mushy but it's nice.

Please do let us know what you decide to try and how you get on.

Jen

[phlika29]

I just found this very interesting page about different skin diseases all with pictures. If you are not sure what you have you can also check out the differential diagnoses. Maybe this is a little bit of help.

http://dermis.multimedica.de/dermisroot/en/30526/diagnose.htm

Barbara

Those pictures freaked me out. They looked like weird ghosts with no eyes!

[cap396]

Thanks to everyone for your responses. It seems to me that I could have either rosacea or demodex, or maybe both. I've read that researchers seem to suggest that there might be a correlation between the two. I'm wondering if my dermatologist diagnosed me with rosacea because the skin biopsy showed demodex mites. I will ask him at my next appointment. I also read on a website about demodex (www.demodexmites.info) that people with demodex sometimes feel a crawling feeling across their eyebrows, especially at night. I have woken up during the night a few times with that feeling (and I usually sleep like a log). In any case, I'm going to continue with the antibiotics for rosacea and I've also ordered a 4 month supply of ZhongZhou ointment for the demodex. I'll post updates here in case anybody is interested. I may also have more questions later on.

Thanks again for all of your responses, and good luck to everyone fighting this.

Ryan

[tkr]

hi, check with walter, and get his opinion, personally I would either find a derm who can check for mites or do it yourself, or buy the z cream promptly and treat yourself. Heather is right on this I think, and the sooner is better to get rid of it before further damage. Heather is the lady who helped simon get excellent results with the z cream, his picture shows it all! hey thanks heather!!tamara

[Tioh2001]

Thanks Tamara!

I've been reading your progress with the ZZ ointment.....good for you for sticking with it and congratulations on your improvement so far.

Heather

[LasVegas]

I came across this website and I'm having a flare up of rosacea. The trigger being harsh weather changes (a cold front has moved into the valley). Please could anyone tell me where to buy this cream/ointment?

[redhotoz]

Hi LasVegas and welcome to the Forum

Here's the link:

http://www.demodexsolutions.com/

It's the "Zhongzhou Zinc oxide and Sublimed sulfur ointment". I've been using it since August, with good results.

They also have a Forum over there. The link is on the left side of the front page, called "Messageboard". I occasionally post over there too.

Good luck!

Jen

[cap396]

Thanks to everyone for your responses. I've been taking doxycycline for about 6 weeks and been using the zz ointment for 4 weeks. I haven't seen any improvement yet, although I haven't gotten much worse either. I know it takes time to see results.

I went to the dermatologist for a follow-up today. He prescribed metrogel so I guess I'll start using that too. He gave me a copy of the biopsy report. Here's what it said:

Final Diagnosis: Granulomatous Folliculitis
There is an inflammatory reaction centered on a follicle with a granulomatous component having palisading of nuclei with acute tuberculid change. This correlates with granulomatous folliculitis. This probably represents rosacea in this setting though perioral dermatitis can resemble this. PAS stains have been performed and I see no fungal orangisms. Control slides stain appropriately.

Does anyone have a clue about what all this means? Or more importantly, any suggestions for treatment based on this? Should I go ahead and start the metrogel? Should I continue the zz ointment? (I didn’t tell the derm that I was using the zz ointment since I know a lot of derms of skeptical about it). I a little surprised that the biopsy didn't say anything about demodex mites. I saw some info that Brady has posted about the classification of granulomatous rosacea and I also googled this to get some more info, but frankly I don't understand most of what I've read. Any help would be appreciated.

[Artist]

Ryan: Does your skin flare up with the typical rosacea triggers? Sunlight, heat, alcohol, spicy food, etc? If not, it may be worthwhile to get a second opinion.

Artist

[cap396]

Yeah, I just recently started flushing but only in my ears. They turn extremely red, and it seems to be triggered by a hot shower in the afternoon, although sometimes the flushing comes out of the blue without a trigger. Weird thing is that it is only in the afternoon - a hot shower in the morning does not trigger flushing. Also, the flushing stopped about a week ago, but I wouldn't be surprised if it comes back.

Another weird thing is that the bumps on my face have lasted for months now. (I posted info about this already in another post). Instead of getting some bumps and then have them clear up only to get more bumps, I have had the exact same bumps in the exact same place for about 5 months. I get about 1 new bump a week.

Ryan

[Artist]

I'd get another opinion. Rosacea bumps can take a while to clear, but that seems like a very a long time. You may want to avoid rosacea triggers for a while to see if you improve - warm or cool showers instead of hot, for example.

Cheers!

Artist

[TC]

Yeah, I just recently started flushing but only in my ears. They turn extremely red, and it seems to be triggered by a hot shower in the afternoon, although sometimes the flushing comes out of the blue without a trigger. Weird thing is that it is only in the afternoon - a hot shower in the morning does not trigger flushing. Also, the flushing stopped about a week ago, but I wouldn't be surprised if it comes back.

Another weird thing is that the bumps on my face have lasted for months now. (I posted info about this already in another post). Instead of getting some bumps and then have them clear up only to get more bumps, I have had the exact same bumps in the exact same place for about 5 months. I get about 1 new bump a week.

Ryan

I can relate to your ear flushing issues. Its extremely frustrating when it happens for no reason, isnt it. But lately I have been paying a little closer attention to mine and noticed that they only seem to flare up when i am in a heated room. Where I live, in the winter time rooms are heated by little floor kerosene fan heaters and stoves - when I am in one these rooms with the heaters blasting, my ear/s slowly creep into a flush, sometimes my cheeks follow. It seems though, that if I stay in a cool place I am totally fine (maybe something to do with temp.) So it must be the heating due to the winter season, because I never noticed this in the summer.

[Froggirl]

Final Diagnosis: Granulomatous Folliculitis
There is an inflammatory reaction centered on a follicle with a granulomatous component having palisading of nuclei with acute tuberculid change. This correlates with granulomatous folliculitis. This probably represents rosacea in this setting though perioral dermatitis can resemble this. PAS stains have been performed and I see no fungal orangisms. Control slides stain appropriately.

Does anyone have a clue about what all this means? Or more importantly, any suggestions for treatment based on this? Should I go ahead and start the metrogel? Should I continue the zz ointment? (I didn’t tell the derm that I was using the zz ointment since I know a lot of derms of skeptical about it). I a little surprised that the biopsy didn't say anything about demodex mites. I saw some info that Brady has posted about the classification of granulomatous rosacea and I also googled this to get some more info, but frankly I don't understand most of what I've read. Any help would be appreciated.

Wow that is hard to understand! I think you really should get a second opinion just to be sure. Particularly if your not seeing any improvement. I couldn't find much specific information on granulomatous folliculitis but found some on folliculitis in general, and that did make more sense of the above.

http://www.dermnetnz.org/acne/folliculitis.html

From that, at least the antibotics look like a good bet because they can treat rosacea, perioral dermatitis, or acne. Just don't take them within a hour of lying down :wink:

Hope things start to get better soon.

[donnasuechault]

Hi Ryan,

I just wanted to share with you a bit of my experience, as your skin eruptions look very similar to what mine did 5 months ago.

I don't know what your background with your skin is, but from the time I was a teenager (I am now 35), I worshipped the sun. Skin cancer runs in my family, so it was very stupid for that reason alone! I also have used a variety of harsh, skincare products over the years, mainly in the last 5. It was not unusual for me to have a peel, mask, scrub, treatment, or some other gook on my face most days and nights. I would actually call myself a skincare junky...

Anyway, my story starts about September of 2005. That is approximately the time I had my first "flare-up". It looked very much like yours looks in your photo. I would describe the majority of my bumps as being similar to blisters, large and red with no visible head...and painful to touch. Others were smaller, in clusters, with little whiteheads that released pus. The first time this happened, I chalked it up to a bad reaction to one of my many facial products and vowed to ease up, and my face cleared up in about week to 10 days time.

I didn't have my second flare until about 5 or 6 months later. The same thing happened, and lasted for about 7 to 10 days. I must tell you, that these 2 flares occurred when I was under a lot of stress, as well as when I was using multiple skincare products.

Then, on August 2, 2006, it came back, with a vengeance! This time, it never went away and I started to panic. What the heck was this? I did tons of internet research and found that the only thing that sounded and looked like what I was dealing with was subtype 2, papulopustular rosacea. I made an appt. with my dermatologist.

She confirmed my suspicions and put me on 100mg (2x a day) of Doxycycline, as well as nightly treatments of Noritate. One month later, my pills were gone and my skin was not much better. I did not go back to the dermatologist again and I discontinued Noritate. I don't have insurance and the last time I visited her, I spent $350. It was no longer an option for me...so I turned to an internet support group for help and continued researching treatment options.

Since then, I have had the bumps spread to my neck. They don’t itch or hurt much; they are just ugly and irritating. I don’t get the big bumps anymore, only a lot of smaller ones. They seem to congregate around my temples, ears, and along my jaw. I have also had problems with bumps in and around my eyebrows. Over this time, I have seen it get better and worse, never sure of what the changes are attributed to.

Five months later and I have tried a variety of different things. I have purchased a shower filter from Aquasana, because our water was very hard. I have begun drinking lots of water and eating more natural foods. I have started to religiously wear sunscreen and limit my exposure to the sun. All my harsh skincare products are long gone and I now only use products specifically for rosacea skin. My showers are no longer hot, but just warm...as well as my food and drinks (many say that heat causes flares). I also make it a point to try and get at least 7 hours of sleep, preferably 8, every night (I used to function on only 5 for years). Stress is one of the biggest factors, in my opinion, as each of my flares was succeeded by very, trying times in my life.

I have also taken many different supplements, none of which seemed to do anything for me. Now I just take a good, multivitamin. Products have included DermaDoctor’s rosacea kit (which I liked, but which didn’t take the bumps away), Rosacea Care (this was also very nice, but didn’t clear my skin), Linda Sy products, and Rosacea-Ltd 3. The last 2 products I haven’t used long enough to make any assertions. I do know that I love Linda Sy’s Zinco (sunscreen), both tinted and untinted. I don’t go a day without wearing it now.

Ryan, I will keep you and everyone else posted as to my failures and successes. We are all here to help each other.

Donna

[redhotoz]

Hi Donna and welcome to the Forum

What a wonderful first post! Sad, but wonderful. I do hope you can find what will help you the most from reading posts here. There certainly is a huge amount of great info here.

I look forward to sharing info with you here.

Good luck!

Jen

[cap396]

Thanks Donna. It sounds like you've tried a lot of different treatments. Right now I'm trying the zz ointment which is supposed to kill demodex mites. It is my best guess that these mites are what is causing my problem. One of the symptoms of mites is having a crawling/moving feeling on your skin when the mites move around your face at night. I get this feeling quite often. Also, my dermatologist did a skin biopsy which showed that the bumps on my face are centered around a hair follicle, and these mites live on hair follicles. I've been on zz ointment for about two months, and started metrogel about a month ago. I've also been on doxycycline for over two months. So far I haven't seen much improvement, but it's supposed to take time. I'm going to give it some more time and if I don't see improvement then I may try some of your suggestions. Thanks - Ryan

[claudia]

Hi Donna and Ryan,

Your experiences have been very similar to mine. I did not respond to doxy or minocycline but I got immediate results from Bactrim...which I find very interesting because bactrim, besides being an antibiotic, is also an anti-fungal treatment.

ZZ cream has salicylic acid in it and seems to work for some people. As I've shared before ANY topical product that contains an antibiotic or antibacterial type ingredient kills mites...so the key is to find what works for you without irritating your skin too much! For some people it's metrogel 1% or noritate or ZZ or ??? Takes experimenting.

However, I really think that those of us with serious p&p issues can NOT get clear without using an internal product too. I've tried for many many years just using topicals without success.

With the bactrim I'm now down to using it only 3x/wk...that's hardly anything at all and it keeps the p&p's away! I use the metrogel to keep any inflammation down that happens on the surface of my skin and the spironolactone is to curb androgens which also tend to cause deep pustules. I'm at an age where my hormones are whacky (55) so that's why I take the spiro but if you're younger you probably won't need it.

Just thought you might like to know what's finally working for me. I know it's very discouraging when you have lots of p&p's...and when nothing's really clearing them away. But when you find something that works it should work withing a few weeks...you should start seeing real improvement.

CV

[occasional visitor]

Yes! This looks exactly like what I have! I have a crawly feeling on my face, scalp, ears and neck all the time, and at night I scratch my legs a lot too. For the longest time I have been trying to find out what it was. I went to the dermatologist and spent 80$ only for him to give me a strange look and prescribe something that didn't work for me at all. I got really frustrated too. Does rosacea start out like this? If so, I really want to nip this in the bud before it gets so terrible, that I need to hide my face. I always had pretty good skin, and now I am devastated. I refuse to think it is just hormones and food I eat. I think that's bs. If I squeeze one of these tiny bumps, it appears to be a hollow hole sometimes in which a tiny bit of sebum-type stuff comes out and then maybe bleeds a bit. It scabs over, and then goes away, but it leaves a mark for quite some time. I really love the face wash from Demodex and because of that, I have ordered some of the creams that I can afford, but plan on getting everything eventually. I will keep everyone posted as to what happens.

[cap396]

Hi Occasional Visitor. I'd suggest that you give the zz ointment from Demodex Solutions a try. I've been using it for about 5 1/2 months now (once a day) and I have seen great improvement in p&p. The crawling sensation is also now completely gone.

I'll post an updated photo soon.

Ryan

[cap396]

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/cap396/05-13-07.jpg


Here is my photo after using zz ointment for 6 months (once a day). I think you can see noticeable improvement, and the crawling sensation from the mites has stopped.

Ryan

[redhotoz]

Wow Ryan! Looking great! What an improvement! So glad you gave the ZZ a try.

Jen

[Quench]

Wow - fab result. You must be thrilled. Thanks for the update.

[angelkatherine]

I get bumps like that all the time!! I just hate it...good luck...

for the last few weeks I have had this red mark on my cheek that alternately is full of bumps, zits or sometimes nothing and just red.

I dont take many pics of myself anymore but there are some here its a page for my co workers to see our outings I just look like I overdosed on blush but am not wearing any....

I use metro gel and antibiotics and this stuff called launol for the demodex mites that launol is a lotion u use on your head when u have lice too

http://www.geocities.com/guzmanpostcards2/work.html

[angelkatherine]

Hi!! I was checking out the before and after pics WHAT a differnece good!